I don't get the Fish Mooney hate

Yes, but it was still boring, no one cared. Barely anyone cared during season 1, we had officially felt she was beyond redemption at that point, storywise.

Jada's acting is too over the top. I don't think anyone would follow her lead, but the writers insist on making her vital.

Galavan, Barbara, even Lee lost their appeal. IMO, Lee had more appeal when she WASN'T Jim's flame. She was a great character before they made her "the girlfriend."

Barbara is ALSO better on her own. If everyone could quit pining on Gordon, she could drop this 'crazy for Gordon' crap and we'd move on with her already! They're certainly in no rush to wed the two at this point...

The actor portraying Galavan has a really boring character to play. I don't care about his dungeons and dragons b.s. diatribes.

Yet he stole the scene a few times during the final few episodes. The writing is only a component*. IMO, Jada is too hyped to really contribute to the character.

Ever heard of Mary Sue? She's the gangsta version. Tough, bad, always has to have the last word, nothing unpredictable will occur when she's around.

Victor was annoying at first, but when he was no longer parading around killing cops for baseless pleasure, I thought, ok, not so annoying anymore.

Same with what's her name, Galavan's sister. Just don't care. The audience understands this is Batman mythos, these characters will have a bloodlust, but it is certainly more comical, IMO, than the comics themselves. It's the acting, the writing, and/or the directing. But the acting is a component if the actress doesn't seem natural at all, IMO. Perhaps she is a character that has no point in the first place and shouldn't be there? I see zero point to her. It feels like a rather simple angry convict takes center stage whenever she's around. I mean these bad guys have to be pretty dumb to not see a 'bad' calculating character like Fish - you can practically see her plotting against you - she speaks maniacally/slowly enough. You should like.. see her coming a mile away! She can be all the bad she wants to be. But what if that is not the POINT to enjoying these characters?? I don't personally feel Penguin, Ed, or the Barb/sis duo should be given a medal for their grotesque violence. Where is the complexity in this 'entertainment?' Need something else to watch than gore-po*n, no? They're better off with interaction/stories than aggrandizing grabs for titles.

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Wow, sorry but you are horribly confining everyone to one corner.

She's just a character. Not all strong women exert control. There are different types of strength. None of these 'bad guys' are strong. They're psychopaths. You can't really root for them.

Jada herself has been prone to fantasize her personality as beyond the scope of other women. I remember thinking, she had spoken about Smith's ex as if the woman had no aspiration to behave responsibly herself when care for their joint families was involved. I thought to myself, boy, his ex must have to really pace herself with Jada around because she will talk until she has made all her points, meanwhile, this other woman has already accomplished several tasks within that time frame with the understanding of the message said preacher supposedly came up with all on her own.

It's the diva personality, not 'strong' personality I see with her. She's an extrovert, but it's rather presumptuous and narcissistic to presume that strength MUST be overt, and MUST be present at all times, and demand control.

I personally think in our society, we all need to stop speaking on the behalf of others, and do more to communicate in order to understand if that preaching is really necessary. These pre-judgments cause nothing more than office gossip, vicious attitudes of self-righteousness, IMO. Have a conversation with someone before you judge their strengths and/or weaknesses. I'm sure there are racist and sexist fanboys, and I think their mothers most likely didn't guide them properly. I don't think someone like Jada is a good example of that kind of strength though. She's a certain type. I personally am conflicted as to whether or not she is simply vain or caught in the act of striving for greatness, working with the presumption that others around her will only slow her down lest she 'put them on notice' rather preemptively/snidely first. She doesn't consider introverts, quieter people her equal either. She won't work as the maternal type for everyone. And there ARE other types of people out there. You don't need to boast greatness, it can be self-ingrained.

It's different for black males , black women have trouble getting roles in Hollywood once they get a certain age.

I'm Blade brown, the Dopest, illest,hypest brotha, on the block!

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