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Why did they make Sidney a vicar?


after watching the season finale..it went from uhhh what straight to WTH?

the premise of the young vicar who is about serving his parish and yet wanting to enjoy jazz and be a jr. detective was cute...but now we're left to believe he's going to covet another man's wife..Isn't that one of the ten commandments..and we're supposed to believe that will be ok in that small village...

and he's going to abide with her getting a divorce?
why didn't he become a detective in the first place?



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Sidney became a vicar because of guilt from young soldier dying during wwii
He and Amanda have been in love for years and didn't get married because he NEVER asked.
Didn't become a detective because he hadn't met Geordie yet
I am a fan of the Amanda and Sidney relationship. You can't fight love. Its how my wife and I came together and we've been married for 20yrs with more than 30yrs to go.

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What do you mean by "they"? The series is based on a number of books by James Runcie, and their chief protagonist is a clergyman. Serialised for television, what should "they" have made him?

The point surely is that he's human like anyone else; he doesn't always (or even often) behave like a vicar, although young clergy who drink too much and listen to modern music are surely not that unusual, even in the 50s.

What happens in the Amanda arc will be interesting. He can't marry her even if she divorces her husband. Unless Guy dies or Sidney leaves the clergy, they can't be together romantically. I'm guessing that this will be one of the issues S3 has to deal with.



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Come on do you have to rain on my parade?! Can't I be happy for the ending for the ending for at least a day?! Your reasons for them not to be together are probably true. However, if they need an actor to kill off Guy in the show, I'm your man. I'm not an actor but how hard to use a cap gun?

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Not sure if it's always been this way, but because Sydney is a vicar(Protestant minister, not a priest) he can get married, divorced, remarried even to a divorcee. Of course it is different than Catholic priests. Again, want to point out, don't know if this was ok in the 50's.

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Not sure if it's always been this way, but because Sydney is a vicar(Protestant minister, not a priest) he can get married, divorced, remarried even to a divorcee. Of course it is different than Catholic priests. Again, want to point out, don't know if this was ok in the 50's.


CofE ministers are also referred to a priests.


In 2002 the Church moved to allow divorced people to remarry in church under exceptional circumstances and always at the discretion of the vicar.

The first clergyman to remarry after divorce while serving as a bishop in the modern era was the suffragan Bishop of Hull, the Rt. Rev. Richard Frith in 1997. It remains very infrequent. The Bishop of Fulham remarried after divorce in 2015 with the permission of the Bishop of London and the Archbishop of Canterbury.

So no, a clergyman marrying a divorced woman would have been a no go in the 50s - and for decades thereafter. If he married her in a civil ceremony his career in the church would very likely be over. Realistically if Sidney wants to marry Amanda he'll have to eave the priesthood.




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Sorry, I meant "Catholic" Priest vs Protestant.

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Also, Geordie made a crack about Sidney only having to work one day a week. What do Vicars do the rest of the week?

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What do vicars, Catholic priests, Protestant ministers, rabbis, imans, etc. do the rest of the week?

Counsel parishoners, visit the sick, hold meetings, manage the finances of their churches, write their sermons, LOTS OF STUFF!!!

(Before you ask, teachers don't just work 5 hours a day either!!)

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I guess Sidney is exempt from all that!

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In the fifties could he even marry a divorcee??? Isn't he supposed to encourage a person in her situation to go to counseling? And thefact t that she is pregnant with her husbands child , isn't he supposed to try to keep the family unit together???frankly I find the Amanda character annoying, she made her bed, now she has to lie in it!!!

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In the fifties could he even marry a divorcee???


Nope.




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In the fifties could he even marry a divorcee??? Isn't he supposed to encourage a person in her situation to go to counseling? And thefact t that she is pregnant with her husbands child , isn't he supposed to try to keep the family unit together???frankly I find the Amanda character annoying, she made her bed, now she has to lie in it!!!



Forgive me..I am American and had no idea this was based off of a series of books. I thought it was a conceived scripted tv show.
So I am left baffled because clearly the plot has already been outlined. I am still confused. It's a bit like seeing a show based in the Middle Ages and then seeing behavior that wouldn't matter a hill of beans in 2016 and yet that would be ok in the 50's?
I can't imagine that in the 50's Amanda being heavily pregnant and all would run to be with her ex bf who turned vicar, expect to live with him in this small town village and she would divorce her husband and the vicar raise his child. The rich powerful husband would go along with that?
Take out the superficial stuff...if this vicar were short bald nerdy and not the handsome dude James Norton would this plotline work on tv?


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Oh my yes to all three, although the absolute knock-out was the Priest at a friend's wedding. Woooahh! Serious flushing on the faces of some of the congregation. Not just young and drop-dead gorgeous but forbidden fruits.

Apparently he was the Bishop's secret weapon, parachuted into any high-profile congregation which needed a boost in attendance by young professionals. It seemed to be working.

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Has anyone ever seen a...sexy priest?

Yes. Went to Catholic Schools from the ages of 5 to 18. Yes, I have run into more than a couple of sexy priests. There was one with the most gorgeous clear blue eyes. The girls in my high school would fight to get in line for confession (no booths).

We even an ex-priest teach our religion class. He was an a-hole though. And throughout the years, there were also many older, plain old good looking/handsome priests.

I've also run into my share of good looking ministers. Since this is in the US, I don't think they qualify as vicars.

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expect to live with him in this small town village and she would divorce her husband and the vicar raise his child. The rich powerful husband would go along with that?


I don't know that she does expect that; she said she had nowhere else to go. I expect that these are some of the issues that S3 will have to deal with.


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I don't know that she does expect that; she said she had nowhere else to go. I expect that these are some of the issues that S3 will have to deal with


And this is why I'm wincing. I like the odd couple him and his detective friend solving murder mysteries. The soap opera-ness of the finale plotline with him and Amanda actually cuts into Geordie and him friendship.

Also it was sort of peculiar that Sidney wasn't overly concerned about fellow vicar Leonard Finch ..ok he mentions living with a broken heart gets easier but he doesn't know with whom he's crying over... and here Leonard was defending him bravely.


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Have you seen Leonard? Do you think he'd be remotely comfortable with Sidney knowing the details of his misery?

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I'm confused, and again, as I admitted in another thread, I was not raised Christian so I may have major gaps in the details. But, doesn't the entire Church of England/Anglican Church exist because of a little lack of available divorce and remarriage options experienced by one King Henry VIII of England?

Wasn't part of the establishment of the CoE that it's members may marry, divorce and remarry as wanted. I'm not saying it may not have been frowned upon ironically puritanical society that the 1950s everywhere in Western culture. Something akin to, it's not what we've agreed to on paper, but, culturally it's still taboo, the way Muslims force women to wear burkas even though nary a mention of burkas exist in the Koran. So divorce was a hard-fought right, but anyone practicing it was still disdained?

I always thought it was strange and even more so a puritanical American attitude, that a nation that prides itself on being to Protestant, was so anti-divorce and actually still is in general. Oh, until Ronald Reagan, then it was OK to have divorced, morally loose, astrology-believing, homosexual-befriending Hollywood actors in the White House. But everyone else in society be damned then and still now. Whatever, sounds to me like in Britain the religious hypocrisy has reigned supreme.

Feel free to clear up the details for me, I do prefer to be informed and understand what's what.

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Henry VIII was never divorced; his marriages to Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard were annulled. After the break with Rome Henry still considered himself - and his country - Catholic. The Six Articles of 1539 upheld the prohibition on married clergy, and it wasn't until their repeal under Edward VI in 1547 that married clergy became permissible.

European protestants such ad Martin Luther and Calvin were married; Thomas Cranmer (Archbishop of Canterbury) had to give up his fellowship at Jesus College Cambridge when he married; when his wife died the fellowship was reinstated. He met Margaret Osiander(?) in Nuremberg and married her in 1532, concealing the fact until the repeal of the Six Articles.



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Henry VIII was never divorced; his marriages to Katherine of Aragon and Anne of Cleves were annulled (as were those to Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard). After the break with Rome Henry still considered himself - and his country - Catholic. The Six Articles of 1539 upheld the prohibition on married clergy, and it wasn't until their repeal under Edward VI in 1547 that married clergy became permissible.

European protestants such ad Martin Luther and Calvin were married; Thomas Cranmer (Archbishop of Canterbury) had to give up his fellowship at Jesus College Cambridge when he married; when his wife died the fellowship was reinstated. All of that was before he was ordained. He met Margaret Osiander(?) in Nuremberg and married her in 1532, concealing the fact until the repeal of the Six Articles.



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rankly I find the Amanda character annoying, she made her bed, now she has to lie in it!!!?

So do I. When Sidney asked why she was marrying the guy, she replied, "He asked.". Well, she didn't have to say yes.

She married to the guy, what exactly does she expect Sidney to do now? Pine for her the rest of his life? Wait for her husband to die? Why does she keep hanging around? How is anything she's doing fair to him?

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Because they couldn't make him an opera singer??

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