The zombie wall ...
... is effective only for people who are too ignorant/stupid to know the zombie makeup trick. The gangsters are neither, and they'd waltz right through that field of zs, so who is the wall for? Dumber sociopaths?
shareThe zombies know there are delicious people on the other side of a fence. Why are they milling about? Why aren't they pressing in TOWARD the colonia? Why haven't they crushed the fences down the way they were in TWD at the prison?
shareBecause of the human sacrifices provided by the pharmacist messiah.
Those near death deliver themselves to the dead and join the wall.
Our brothers, our sisters protect them.
They protect us.
So, there it is. The dead are joined by the living sacrifices and in turn protect the colonia.
Makes perfect sense. share
Zombies do not stop attacking if they managed to get one person in the group. An occasional sacrifice (how many they can give every week?) wouldnt make the zombies calm down for so long and not attack the fence.
shareZombies do not stop attacking if they managed to get one person in the group.
Of course they do. They do whatever the writers say they do.
An occasional sacrifice (how many they can give every week?) wouldnt make the zombies calm down for so long and not attack the fence.
It would if the writers say it would.
They can write it any way they like, regardless of what has been established on the other show or in previous episodes in this show. This is nothing new.
TWD has never concerned itself with consistency nor continuity. Why should it matter now?
Although I will say this. During the prison arc on TWD, a lot of people kept asking why they wouldn't just put up something to block the view, so the walkers would lose interest and wander off.
It looks like at the colonia, the family that left had to go through several layers of walls/barricades to even get to the fence where the zombie wall was.
It may be that once the living were out of sight, they lost interest and began meandering about again. share
Seriously, if you reduce the argument to "writers can do anything", there is no point even discussing anything. inconsistency should not be an excuse.
And yeah, They do have a way to block the view, but they were playing football in the colony. The sound would atrack the zombies.
Seriously, if you reduce the argument to "writers can do anything", there is no point even discussing anything. inconsistency should not be an excuse.
Which is why we see so many negative posts about this and TWD on the IMDB boards.
Every episode has such nonsense. It's all purely plot driven. The characters behave in such a way as the plot requires. The walkers behave in such a way as the plot requires. Even the laws of physics behave in such a way as the plot requires.
This is nothing new. TWD is a show based on a comic book. I'm not sure why I or anyone else would expect anything different.
If you point out any of these items, then you will invite the apologists labeling you as a "hater" and the typical vitriol to accompanies it.
Most of the defense of the show boils down to:
1. You're just a hater. Why do you watch if you hate it so much?
2. Your not smart enough to get it. You're too dumb to get the subtle artistic nuance of the show. You can't put 2 and 2 together or connect the dots. You want to be spoon-fed everything. You just want zombies and blood and gore and mindless action.
3. It's a show about the dead reanimating and eating people and that's what you have a problem with? share
Ok, aav, if you meant that comment about the writers can as a critic, sure. The board will really narrow down to this kind of arguments.
Even if we compare TWD and Fear, we can notice there is a better level of script and production on TWD. Naturally, more money, better technicians. I agree that it is plot driven, but I believe it is a cheap plot driven. There are problems of continuity that boil down to production, but the writing is also the cause of many problems. There is simple technical stuff like cliffhangers being misused. Of course, I have no desire to clash with arguments as the 3 you numbered, but...
1 - I write for a brazilian website about TV series. I cover Walking Dead and Fear. So that is why :D
2 - This argument is silly even when we are dealing with highest form of art. People who are smart enough to get what Shakespeare meant are usually good enough to talk about it. They may be snappy, arrogant, but they love to talk about it.
3 - Yes, and Odissey is about cyclops and people turned into pig, Divine Comedy about a man descending and leaving hell, etc. Deads coming back is just fantasy, a use of artistic language. We get it and we get in fantasy you are demanding realism. Which is completely different from demanding technical consistensy, etc. I also know it is just enterteiment. So were the Beatles and they knew how to play.
I sounded snob enough, but a good example is: it is not because it is about zombies, that the actors can be that bad. Ask Sissy Spacek if her acting was amiss just because she was a fictious monster in Carrie.
Fear is really a B movie, Romero's Night of Living Dead spawned several imitations, few are even close to the quality (yes, it had) of the original movie. Fear is a bit like those imitations to TWD (which is nowhere near the quality of Night of Living dead, mostly because terror stories and zombies do not boil well in a format with 12 chapters, imo)
First, your English is very good. I wouldn't have known unless you said something.
1 - I write for a brazilian website about TV series. I cover Walking Dead and Fear. So that is why :D
Can you post a link? I'd like to read some of your work. I don't know Portuguese, but I'll attempt to use google translate.
2. Agreed. I personally like clever writing that leaves it up to the viewer to connect the dots and arrive at the "aha!" moment. This show is not that.
So much remains unexplained and no amount of filling in the blanks or intuitive thinking can make sense of it. It's not about wanting to be spoon fed everything. It's about wanting it to make sense.
3. Agreed. I've said many times, just because I can suspend disbelief for the premise of the show (zombies), doesn't mean I should be expected to suspend disbelief for any nonsensical thing that occurs within the show.
Even though the dead can't reanimate in reality, I can accept that as the premise of the show or there is no show. But I won't accept a van flipping off the side of an overpass, then landing on all four wheels. The worst part is that they intentionally re-shot that atrocity to make it look that way. On purpose.
There are problems of continuity that boil down to production, but the writing is also the cause of many problems
There are a great number of these problems in every episode. The entire reason I started participating here is because I wanted to see if others were seeing the same thing as I was. As it turned out, I could read the boards shortly after each episode and see dozens of posts immediately after with people describing how it could have been better written.
In the end, it's a popular show and it's fun to discuss, warts and all.
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Sure, here is the link:
http://sctdo.com/author/joao-camilo/
Yeah, the discussion should be fun, but the "competition" even between spin-offs is a reason to keep away from the boards.
At this point, i have to say the only way they have to be anyway original or interesting is to make short spin-offs, specific sittuations that would last 3-4 episodes. TWD is already worning off the formula of the drama that accidentally have zombies.
If the zombies eat the human sacrifices, how are they able to join 'the wall'? There wouldn't be anything left.
In order to 'join the wall', the colonia would need to wait until they are dead, then put the corpse in a 1/2 way point to keep the already dead from eating it, then after it comes back, let it out into the wall area (somehow).
Otherwise, you still have the same number of zombies in between the fences, only fatter zombies.
I don't pretend to understand how any of this nonsense works. I was just answering the question based on what the viewer is presented in the show.
sharespielbertoThe zombies know there are delicious people on the other side of a fence. Why are they milling about? Why aren't they pressing in TOWARD the colonia? Why haven't they crushed the fences down the way they were in TWD at the prison?In TWD, the girls were luring them to the fence with lunch meat and other leftovers. share