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Socialist realism

posted 9 years ago by viniciusdfranca-838-344108
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An ideological work may well turn out to be a work of art, but this is not the case. Just another propaganda piece, like almost all Brazilian films produced by the National Film Agency, which is chaired by a member of the Central Committee of the Communist Party. The film is getting a hyperbolic promotion by leftist journalists from all over the world, especially, unsurprisingly, France. As the Academy has been receiving a lot of pressure from this same left - as could be seen by the stupid reaction to the not consecration of Selma last year - and as the United States has been gradually leaning toward the same left, the film might even get a nomination. It would be further proof that today socialism sells.

[–] diewgong 9 years ago

I think you're like those crazy / neurotic tea party protesters that complain that everything is contaminated with socialism and communism

[–] Batgirl_85 9 years ago

Can´t believe we have coxinhas even here in IMDB. Lol.

[–] planet17 9 years ago

Né? hahaha

Fala sério.

Não imaginava que até "Que Horas Ela Volta?" seria vitima disso.

[–] vinicius-oliveirapaiva 8 years ago

É foda...

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[–] planet17 9 years ago

If this movie is not art, 98% of american movies are not art either. They're just propaganda piece selling their "american dream".

And so what if the movie is being praised by leftist?

If this movie shows anything it's not "socialist realism". It's just the reality of brazilian social context.

[–] viniciusdfranca-838-344108 9 years ago

There you go. You, with the american avatar.

[–] planet17 9 years ago

And...?

[–] Batgirl_85 9 years ago

I agree with you, thanks for bringing that up! And yes, american movies are always selling their american dream.

[–] planet17 9 years ago

Valeu ;)

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[–] bombaymahal 8 years ago

😂😂😂😂😂 ☭😜☭

[–] rudykawa 8 years ago

It's not even near the propaganda movies from the 20s and 30s. And yes, Battleship Potemkin is a freaking cinema masterpiece, being a propaganda movie or not. Oktober is a *beep* masterpiece also.
Just the same as Triumph of the Will and Olympia are masterful documentaries in cinematography point of view, even though they are nazist propaganda movies.
Must separate the ideology from the art piece.

And it's a fact that our cinema has been driven by left ideology. That doesn't say it's worse. The quality from the movies themselves have actually only grown in the past 10 years. Just need to think that this year's movie selected to the oscars had a left theme, last year also, same with Som ao Redor, Tropa de Elite 2 and Lula (this one clearly political since it was far from being a well made movie, just an hagiography). I think only O Palhaço was a more narrative fictional story.
And strangely not the first Tropa de Elite, since many critics claimed it to be a fascist movie with all the police violence (which shows how little they know Padilla).

Anyway, about this movie, the only problem I had with it was that they had to villanize the rich family. It weakens the message of being a society, organization problem, and becomes solely a "bitch rich woman" versus "kind honest poor woman". Or "rich rapist sex predator old guy" versus "hard working hard studying girl".
Putting one of the members from the family as the villain wouldn't be much of a problem since it was necessary to make the plot evolve. But the whole subplot from the rich spoiled boy sleeping with the maid or the subplot of the father sucking the girl's neck was completely only driven to build them as villains and didn't move the plot at all.
And because of that I thought it made the plot weaker. And a shame because if they were not there, the movie wouldn't change much and the power would've been stronger.

[–] !!!deleted!!! (64929284) 8 years ago

The boy wasn't sleeping with the maid in the sexual sense. He was a virgin. She was like a second mother to him. It's more like he wasn't fully grown and would become a bit infantile around her.

[–] lucero65 8 years ago

I'm glad I came back here. I was just getting ready to order some films on DVD from Brazil. I hadn't ordered this one, but now I will. Looking at what other films are out there, this one was a breath of fresh air. I don't think it is socialst propaganda, but just the fact that Brazil has reach a time in its history when there is backlash against the upperclass treating maids like garbage, and also against lower class maids accepting that treatment. I also saw Selma and I thought it was good and not propaganda. That was a real event that happened. Both these movies had good acting in them and something a bit more serious than the usual fare.

[–] planet17 8 years ago

upperclass treating maids like garbage

It's more than that. It's about the "unspoken class barriers"

[–] halbermensch 8 years ago

Guy's just waiting for the Brazilian remake of Death Wish, starring Jair Bolsonaro.

[–] matheusf 8 years ago

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Also, a brazillian Triumph of the Will

Lemon Curry?

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[–] benman46 8 years ago

You seem to post the same sort of horsesh!t wherever you go. Cheesedick.

[–] arthurcastelobranco 8 years ago

Yeah, this is the kind of stuff the "communist" party in Brazil loves to fund (they are not communist at all, they are just corrupt as fack and throw crumbs to buy support) because it pushes their own agenda. Us against them. The daughter of a cleaner expecting to have the same rights of the owner of the house. This is the *beep* up mentality they are pushing in. The sooner they are purged from politics, the better.