Looks like a flop - Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019) Discussion

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I find it hilarious that people like you constantly talk as if the overseas totals(which exceeds the domestic, by the way)...do not go to the studio or something.

What the hell do you people SMOKE?

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[–] modica (4169) 5 years ago

Still not much of a win for this movie. It may hover around 120 million when all is said and done.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

It’s at $296million worldwide, egghead.

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[–] modica (4169) 5 years ago

I am talking about the US box office weirdo. That is all that matters to Hollywood. Godzilla won't continue.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

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[–] dmac8 (5050) 5 years ago

It's more like the foreign box office matters most to Hollywood for films like these.

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[–] modica (4169) 5 years ago

The movie was horrible. That is really what matters.

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[–] GotWood84 (384) 5 years ago

No. What really matters is your awful prediction didn't even come close.

You're prediction was f cking pathetic.

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[–] modica (4169) 5 years ago

The prediction wasn't horrible. It has not made 100 million in the US yet. Not good box office for sure.

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[–] FilmBuff (6672) 5 years ago

Who cares what it makes in the US? Money is money. Plus, Legendary is owned in part by a Chinese company, so they're likely more concerned with what it makes in China than in the US. It's going to make a nice profit when all is said and done.

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[–] modica (4169) 5 years ago

If the movie was good then it would be a different story. The movie just isn't good and when you combine that with bad box office the result will not be the possibility of any sequels.

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[–] FilmBuff (6672) 5 years ago

Did you see the film and dislike it? I thought it was great. For what it is-- a giant monster movie-- it's about as good as I've ever seen. 84% of audience response on Rotten Tomatoes has been positive, and it earned a B+ Cinemascore. I think it's fair to say most people think it's a good movie, and there is 100% certainty a sequel is coming next year.

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[–] JoWilli (14999) 5 years ago

its a total flop...

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[–] FilmBuff (6672) 5 years ago

$350 million in 3 weeks? Not as much as I'm sure they wanted, but far from a flop. It's going to turn a profit, and there will be sequel next year, so...

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[–] furiousstyles (4359) 5 years ago

But but but queensfan said it was hot hot hot

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Isn't the quality of the movie what really matters?

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[–] modica (4169) 5 years ago

Sure, but it sucked. Millie Bobby Brown is awful too.

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[–] FilmBuff (6672) 5 years ago

Sadly, not always. I think the problem may be that there just isn't much of an audience for a Godzilla movie in the U.S. I doubt the mixed critical reviews helped, but the bottom line is that the majority of Godzilla fans are males aged 45 to 65, and there aren't enough of them to carry the film. It was quite good, for what it is, and in a perfect world it would spawn sequels here for decades as the original did in Japan.

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[–] TMC-4 (19392) 5 years ago

Why’d it Bomb? Godzilla: King of the Monsters and Pokemon: Detective Pikachu (2019)

https://lebeauleblog.com/2019/06/15/whyd-it-bomb-godzilla-king-of-the-monsters-and-pokemon-detective-pikachu-2019/

But I think the problem with both movies is that, even though fan reception towards both has been positive, it’s been made clear by critics that both are really just for the fans and doesn’t have much for parents or other people that have been dragged to the cinema. It’s not like the MCU, which the fans love and have also been made accessible by the general public, if you don’t care about Godzilla or Pokemon, there’s not much of a reason to buy a ticket. And I think Warner and Legendary overestimated how well these movies would do while only catering to a niche fanbase. Yes these fanbases include lots and lots of people, especially Pokemon, but, as has been pointed out by me last time, that doesn’t necessarily mean the entire fanbase is going to see everything in these respective franchises. So it’s probably a better idea to try to cater to as many people as you can, as long as you don’t go too overboard with trying to get newbs’ butts in seats, by basically ignoring the source material, like Dragonball Evolution did. Or Godzilla ’98. Or Super Mario Bros.

Instead these movies proved you can be faithful to the source material and still come out with a movie that falls flat as a movie.

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

I can agree with that. The problem with Godzilla KOTM is that the director is also the writer but isn't great at either. Godzilla 2014 at least knew how to create some semblance of human adventure that lead up to the monsters fighting. The fans weren't crazy about it because it focused too much on the human element. It was a valid complaint too. But then came Kong Skull Island to show how its done. In Godzilla KOTM the director focused on the monsters but completely half-assed the human element. If ever there was a well-deserved 40% RT critics score then this is it. Naturally the harder core of fans are going to want monster battles and since that is what they get then they are happy. But its at the sacrifice of general audiences who are looking for an adventure.

All these movies have to do is hire writers that know how to create human adventure. But too often we see these directors who write their own screenplays who end up trying to force human characters and motivations into the story beats they want to direct. Thats what Dougherty did here. And thats what Kinberg did with Dark Phoenix.

Detective Pikachu's problem of causing parents to tune out is kinda what happened with Shazam as well. They relied too much on Ryan Reynolds' name recognition to carry the parents through similarly to how they relied on Shazam's connection with the DC universe to try and keep parents interested.

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