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Full Frontal with Samantha Bee vs. The Nightly Show

posted 8 years ago by hatoju
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What did you think of Full Frontal with Samantha Bee, which is presented from a female perspective vs. The Nightly Show, which highlights the minority perspective?

I know Full Frontal does not seem to have any guests or characters and it airs only once a week. Last Week Tonight with John Oliver seems somewhat similar, although with longer bits. I think Full Frontal has the potential to be influential like Last Week Tonight, with good bits like this week showing that John Kasich is not really a moderate from a female perspective.

Full Frontal looks to be quite a cheap production, but the ratings are about the same as with The Nightly Show. We need more shows like these that show problems that have been ignored on the network shows.

[–] mmmK-Ultra 8 years ago

I've had about enough Samantha Bee. I think when she started on about how terrible it is to ask out a co-worker is when I hit hypocrisy overload. She's married to a coworker from The Daily Show, whom she met at a different job earlier, while at work.

They're both just trying to attack white guys, one for being male, the other for being white.

Eventually I get sick of being blamed for stuff I didn't do and don't support. I don't rape women, but Bee's show treats me like a rapist anyways. I'm not racist, but Wilmore's show assumes I am, because I'm white. And somehow it's apparently not sexist for Bee to assume men are pigs and not racist for Wilmore to assume all white people are racist. Hypocrisy OVERLOAD.

[–] hatoju 8 years ago

The Nightly Show and Full Frontal do not try to blame the white guy. They is trying to highlight problems that minorities and women have. If minorities and women are treated better, it does not take anything away from you. Also, most of the writers of these shows are white and men. These are comedy show, so you should not take them so seriously.

[–] mmmK-Ultra 8 years ago

The 'problems' they are 'highlighting' are almost exclusively white guys. If I had a show 'highlighting' how much women and black people are a 'problem' for society, there would be a pretty understandable uproar about what a racist sexist I would be for doing so. The lack of same about these shows just demonstrates what a giant, hypocritical, racist and sexist double standard is in place. You can make any wild accusation about white guys on major media, and that's ok. Because, of course, we deserve it. Because we're all terrible human beings. "Social Justice" = massive hypocrisy.

[–] hatoju 8 years ago

If I had a show 'highlighting' how much women and black people are a 'problem' for society

Perhaps you could write a show about those problems and make it funny. Although there does not seem to be any racist, sexist, religious or conservative shows that are funny.

[–] mmmK-Ultra 8 years ago

No, because I'm neither sexist nor racist. And even if I was and decided to make such a show, that still doesn't excuse the other side of the racist / sexist coin for their versions.

[–] sinz150 8 years ago

@mmkUltra I couldn't agree more. ??

[–] C.S.Wood 8 years ago

The 'problems' they are 'highlighting' are almost exclusively white guys. If I had a show 'highlighting' how much women and black people are a 'problem' for society

Okay, stop for a second. I can imagine what "how black people are a problem for society" is code for, but how exactly would you "highlight how women are a problem for society"?

This sounds more and more like The Man Show except instead of a self-aware parody it's 100% serious.

The 'problems' they are 'highlighting' are almost exclusively white guys.

Prove it. This sounds more like your imagination making the connection that if women/minorities are speaking up for themselves then that means they must be speaking down to white guys.

On the other hand, if you actually see things from their perspective and agree that women/minorities are being shafted thanks to bad policies and wage inequality then you could help support them and be one of those hero white guys...

Unless you DON'T agree with them and don't sympathize with them, in which case that would mean you are one of those villain white guys who are threatened by comedy shows that draw attention to the inequality women/minorities have to deal with.

Revenge is the most important meal of the day.

[–] mmmK-Ultra 8 years ago

On the other hand, if you actually see things from their perspective and agree that women/minorities are being shafted thanks to bad policies and wage inequality then you could help support them and be one of those hero white guys...

Unless you DON'T agree with them and don't sympathize with them, in which case that would mean you are one of those villain white guys who are threatened by comedy shows that draw attention to the inequality women/minorities have to deal with.

Got it, so if I don't comply with your agenda, it can only be because I am part of the problem? And you don't see a problem with that?!?

Ridiculous.

Hey did you stop beating your wife yet?

[–] C.S.Wood 8 years ago

Got it, so if I don't comply with your agenda

I don't think you are grasping the situation.

Over the span of the last 200 years or so the US has had major social changes that have divided the country, like the emancipation of slaves, the woman's suffrage amendment, and the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Now I ask you, if you were alive during those times, which side would you have been on? Would you consider the ending of slavery or women voting or kids going to school together an "agenda"?

These were all situations in which one group of citizens were denied rights that other citizens weren't, situations that, at the time, had large swaths of citizens who were vehemently against granted those disenfranchised people their rights. We look back on those people as being backwards, stupid, and flat out wrong. Those people certainly were part of the problem

So like I said, I'm very curious to hear your opinion on those cases. Would you have been for or against giving those disenfranchised citizens their rights or would you have been for denying them?

Revenge is the most important meal of the day.

[–] larsinii 8 years ago

Oh you know he's not going to answer you.
"I see you as a dunce but I haven't said it once" 

[–] C.S.Wood 8 years ago

Oh you know he's not going to answer you.

Of course not, because I have him by the balls and he knows it.

Revenge is the most important meal of the day.

[–] jdge439 8 years ago

Stopped reading at they is

[–] jdge439 8 years ago

Which pretty much sums up the viewers of this show.

I'm involved in a major conglomerate of bad guys. Few details escape me.

[–] mmmK-Ultra 8 years ago

Good call, I think I will adopt a similar policy in the future.

[–] iLikemovingimagez 8 years ago

you dont watch it anyway all u do is french kiss me when it comes one

[–] sinz150 8 years ago

Probably the dumbest thing I've ever read.

[–] politicidal 8 years ago

Haven't watched Full Frontal yet.

What's missing in movies is same as in society: a good sense of work ethic and living up to ideals.

[–] Bullish_Captain 8 years ago

I haven't come across her show. It must be on when I'm watching something else.

The Nighty Show is just ok. Not as good as Colbert was, or John Oliver's show.

[–] yesanything 8 years ago

Samantha Bee 99.9999999% better than Larry Wilmore

(assuming 100% was as high as possible)

[–] ironicshowchoir 8 years ago

Agreed. She's already beating TNS in ratings. Give her another month, and I suspect she'll be beating TDS as well.

[–] cbnspanky2 8 years ago

No comparison really, Samantha Bee is WAY funnier and thought provoking than Larry. I gave up on him about a month ago. He has ZERO range.

[–] sixgunsam 8 years ago

100% agreed. I can't stand the Nightly Show. It's the same racially charged and dividing slurs that keeps the race wars going. Sigh.

[–] IAmASquirrel 8 years ago

Both absolutely worthless.

[–] iam-92453 8 years ago

Both absolutely worthless.

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[–] stackloads 8 years ago

One blames the whites, the other blames the guy. The former is by far less comedic and less entertaining.

[–] WhenGreyjoysCry 8 years ago

I would take Last Week Tonight with John Oliver over either of them.