I agree the whole gun trafficing sub plot was flawed, and a bit exaggerated.
What was exaggerated about it? They actually did a good job at playing it down and showing it for these little two-man half-ass operations that they tend to be.
And there would be no need for a straw purchaser to go to a gun show to buy weapons
Why not? They
do. Need to or not, they often make straw purchases at gun shows.
and NOBODY buys 13 308's without being denied or reported or both, UNLESS it was during Fast and Furious where OUR government directed gun shop owners to ignore the law.
That just sounds really naive.
That is why the Obama administration had to pump up those numbers falsely to make their anti gun argument stronger. That was the purpose of fast and furious. To flood the cartels with a new pipeline of easy to get American weapons during faction wars.
You do realize that Fast and Furious began as Operation Wide Receiver under the Bush administration, don't you? Or are you just conveniently leaving that bit out?
The premise was to track them, and yet there was no operation or technology activated to track them. They were just dumping them so they would eventually turn up at Mexican crime scenes, and bolster the argument that our 2nd ammendment freedoms are causing violence in Mexico.
Eh... you're about half right. Yes, they said they were going to track the guns when they had absolutely no way of doing so. But to do this for the sole purpose of gaining support for the anti-gun argument? I mean, I know that's the usual gun nut conspiracy theory, but you do see how far you're reaching, right?
The fact of the matter is the US declared a war on drugs. To fight a war, you need soldiers, and those soldiers need weapons. Considering the fact that the US declared this war on drugs, it would make sense that we would aid in arming our combatants across the border, would it not? Frankly, it's really that simple. I know the conspiracy theories are fun, but the truth is plain as day. This is what the US has historically done. We're doing it in the Middle East as well. War is a trillion dollar industry. The US government revolves around this industry.
The bottom line is our government needs wars and their wars need guns. That's just how it works.
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murad23
8 years ago
You are wrong on the facts on all points
Why not? They do. Need to or not, they often make straw purchases at gun shows.
Except gun shows are not the source of 0.1% of guns used in crime
You do realize that Fast and Furious began as Operation Wide Receiver under the Bush administration, don't you? Or are you just conveniently leaving that bit out?
People who bring up wide receiver prove their profound ignorance.
1. Wide receiver did not result in deaths of US law enforcement, Fast and Furious provided weapons direct to cartels and got US agents KILLED.
2. Wide receiver was a gun tracing not a "gun walking" operation. Wide receiver resulted in NO deaths -- not one from a gun in wide recover. Holders Fast and furious resulted in hundred of confirmed deaths so far.
3. Most guns in wide receiver were RFID chipped.
4. wide receiver saw 300 guns walk, 260 were recovered. Holders Fast and furious lost 2,100 guns the vast majority never recovered
5. Wide receiver was shut down by the administration in months when they saw a couple hundred guns get los. Fast and furious went on and on and lost THOUSADNDS and was not shut down until two US law enforcement and hundreds of Mexican cartel victims were killed.
6. Wide receiver was done with cooperation of Mexican authorities. Fast and Furious they were kept completely in the dark
Yes, they said they were going to track the guns when they had absolutely no way of doing so. But to do this for the sole purpose of gaining support for the anti-gun argument?
In fact in wide receiver they used RFID and tracked and got back most guns.
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