*beep* Cesar
He tortures animals
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Did you see the episode, I'm sorry, I don't know the name, I just saw that it had a German Shepherd, it was listed as episode 410 on my On Demand, even though IMDb only lists 3 seasons, and stopping after ep. 9...anyway, it involved twin brothers, and the dog of one brother. The dog's name is Rusty, and she's very anxious, is terrified of the pool, and very disruptive in the car. She was very vocal (whining). Cesar, of course, for the car part, did his sound effect, and the poking, when what he really should've told the owner is to either get her a 'doggy seatbelt,' (with her anxiety, the feel of the seatbelt may even help her, similar to the 'thundershirt' effect) to keep her in place, or to get a crate large enough for her, and always have her in it, while riding in the car, it's safer for her, safer for the driver and passengers, and doesn't rely on her remembering training that may or may not 'stick'.
My real problem was his 'technique' for trying to get her into the pool, completely stressful, cruel, and unnecessary. After the requisite demonstration of her behavior (which is not good, and did need to be addressed, for her own safety, as well as that of any person around), he proceeds to basically have a tugging contest with the poor dog. The leash is around her throat, seems to be the kind that tightens with pressure (in the way a choke chain does), and she's pulling back, he's pulling her into the water. She's whining, crying, even, I'd say, completely terrified. Frankly, I'm surprised she didn't have a heart attack or something, from the stress, she's EIGHT years old, elderly, for a German Shepherd (why did it take him this long to address her fear of the pool? he'd had her since she was 6 weeks old!). Cesar states that the reason dogs fear going into the water like this, is that the step into the pool is like a cliff to them, there's no 'bottom,' as far as they're concerned, which does make some sense (I wonder if she had an aversion to baths, too, so, water in general, or just the pool? has she ever been to the beach?)...but, then, how about this? Build her a ramp that leads her *gently* into the water, with something still beneath her feet, until the buoyancy of the water takes over. I remember an ep where he was having a similar tug-of-war, I think with an American Bull Dog(?) at his facility, into an above-ground pool, and there was a ramp, so bring one for this dog. So, eventually, she relents, first just her front paws, then all four, then a scary attempt at swimming (still whining some), which smoothed out, eventually. She finally did seem a little better, more comfortable, but it just seems that the whole process could've been done more smoothly, more slowly, more caringly, with more rewards for the slightest try, and still gotten a positive result. What he did was about the equivalent of throwing your small child into the deep end, to teach him to swim, he may figure it out, but it's going to be an extremely traumatic experience.
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Yes, I saw that episode with Rusty. I disagree merely getting her a dog seatbelt would have helped, or a crate. She had more issues than that that needed to be addressed.
"My real problem was his 'technique' for trying to get her into the pool, completely stressful, cruel, and unnecessary. After the requisite demonstration of her behavior (which is not good, and did need to be addressed, for her own safety, as well as that of any person around), he proceeds to basically have a tugging contest with the poor dog. The leash is around her throat, seems to be the kind that tightens with pressure (in the way a choke chain does), and she's pulling back, he's pulling her into the water. She's whining, crying, even, I'd say, completely terrified."
His technique is to tug in the direction he wants a dog to go, until they understand what he wants. The pressure on the leash was on the back of her neck, not her throat. As soon as a dog even makes a slight step towards where he wants them to go, he releases immediately -- that's what lets them know they've done what it is he's asking of them. Then he stops for a while before proceeding to the next step.
A bath or the beach is a different scenario. A bath is shallow, a pool isn't. The slope of a beach is gradual. A ramp, providing the pool stairs weren't too steep, making the ramp too steep, would work.
"What he did was about the equivalent of throwing your small child into the deep end, to teach him to swim, he may figure it out, but it's going to be an extremely traumatic experience."
I disagree. He took it in gradual steps, on actual pool steps, so the dog learned it was safe. There was no throwing of anyone into anything equivalent to the deep end of a pool, and he was right there in the water with her, assuring she'd be safe. (cont'd)
The only thing in your post I do agree with is sometimes he does go too quickly, and doesn't use enough positive reinforcement for my personal liking.
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