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Am I the only one? (Spoilers)


The way I took this final chapter was simply that Reggie had dementia the entire time, and this whole thing from 1979 until now was in his head.

This would explain the whole series. The gaps in between the movies explain Reggie's lucidity. The fact that Reggie gets, and possesses the quadruple barrel shotgun in Lord of the Dead through Ravager, despite discarding it in Phantasm 2. The fact that Reggie constantly, for no reason, possesses a Barracuda throught all the movies.

When they introduced Reggie with dementia in this movie, that's all I thought it was. And I felt it tied the series up perfectly. The worse the situation got, I felt it represented the state of Reggie's deteriorating mind.

My take was that Jody really died in a car accident in 1978, and Reggie felt the obligation to take care of Mike afterwards.

Then Reggie's mind starts to succumb to dementia. It starts out slowly in Phantasm, he still denies it at the start of Phantasm 2, and then it's in full bore for the remaining years, until he dies at the end of Ravager.

The only real moments in the entire series are the moments before the Tall Man appears, and the shots of Mike talking to Reggie on the grounds of the nursing home.

Even when Reggie "dies" in the hospital bed, I was under the impression that he saw Mike's physical being, and Jody's ghost standing next to him.

So in summary, The Red World, the Tall Man, the sentinels, none of it ever happened. Reggie was simply battling dementia and his own mortality.

Under that premise, I thought this movie was brilliant, and a perfect ending to the series.
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I can understand that side of things, but I didn't take it that way... I took it that there were multi-verses... there were even two different 'universes' going on at the hospital... the clothes Mike wears are different (and I do NOT mean simply a different 'day'). I think it really was happening and was just all 'in Reggie's head'.

I think something mysterious happened when Morningside went through the original gate. When he broke the 'code' so to speak so long ago he opened a gate to somewhere he should not have opened. That which we are never fully explained. The Jebediah that came back was NOT the original Jebediah that went through. He did not go through the gate with any intent of killing... anyone. Yet he came back 'changed' (or not himself) and holding the first sphere. Which goes to ask the question, just how DID spirit Jody take Mike back in time to show him the origins of Jebediah? The gates are all key to this. And the cameo at the very end told me the multiverses were still being mixed up. She wasn't talked about or ANYTHING prior to the movie. So how did the little guy even KNOW where to find her? There's too many questions still left,... which is a GOOD THING in my mind. I know many were hoping for more answers... and we did get a few... but not everything was answered. Who made the Tall Man duplicates?? We had that impression what 3 or 4 movies ago?? Was he working for someone even more sinister? Why harvest all the dead in the barrels using revitalized 'crushed' corpses for the work? Why empty EVERY grave? Why not just create zombies out of... EVERYONE to attack or kill the rest of society? or make spheres out of everyone? He seemed to do a bit of both. Why?

Going back to the very first movie... the empty box and the fortune teller. Something about her and her daughter seem very key to the overall series. I need to see the first movie again. The ending of 3... just didn't make sense. And the fate of the other boy... 'seemed vague'... I guess it was obvious, yet he was never really mentioned again, that I can remember.


3rd generation American from a long line of Gottscheers... it was Drandul, dude!

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When written "properly," the whole idea is to make it impossible to know if it was real, or dementia. Real, or a dream. Real, or an artificial memory implant (e.g. Total Recall.) IMO they did a decent job of that in this. You're welcome to believe beyond the shadow of a doubt that it was all just Reggie's dementia. But they made it impossible for you to ever prove it to anyone who disagrees.

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