CPR


Once again another CPR revival. It doesnt work like that. Once your lungs fill with water that's it.
CPR does not bring you back from the dead it is meant to keep you alive untill you reach medical attention: Jesus movies do this alot

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Eh no. CPR can make your heart start beating again.

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huh?

So you are saying no cpr for drowning victims?

Glad Red Cross and AHA disagrees with you.

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Apparently he wasn't dead so CPR saved him. In fact CPR saves drowning victims all the time.

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CPR revives people in something like 4% of all cases. It is done as a temporary measure while waiting for a medical team to arrive, because after all it's better than nothing. The scenario where you apply CPR to someone who has lungs full of water and they cough up some water and are just fine, only ever happens in Baywatch. And this movie.

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maybe 4% of cases if you count all causes of cardiac arrest, but drowning is a moving target. in most places, if you pull someone out of the water within an hour (or something) you can't declare them DOA even if CPR doesn't revive them. that's because the cold slows everything down in a way that preserves life for longer. they must go to the hospital and be warmed back up to normal body temperature to make the call. plenty of "drowned" people have been raised from the dead.

the real question is why did they not get electrocuted in the hotel!

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maybe 4% of cases if you count all causes of cardiac arrest, but drowning is a moving target. in most places, if you pull someone out of the water within an hour (or something) you can't declare them DOA even if CPR doesn't revive them. that's because the cold slows everything down in a way that preserves life for longer. they must go to the hospital and be warmed back up to normal body temperature to make the call. plenty of "drowned" people have been raised from the dead.

So you attempted to counter my argument by reaffirming that CPR won't revive drowned people.

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The goal isn't to restart their heart but to pump the water out. In this particular case, he wasn't submerged very long so it's safe to say he wasn't dead yet. Complications in this footage is that they are performing on a live human so they obviously aren't doing it correctly, which would show much more force. They also don't put him on his side, which is what I thought you do for drowning victims.
If he had been submerged and "dead", the cold would be a factor. Sondre was obviously succumbing to the effects of hypothermia before being saved.

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The goal isn't to restart their heart but to pump the water out.

No, the goal is to keep blood circulating. You won't be able get water out of the lungs that way. If the lungs are totally flooded, you might get the bulk of water out that way, but there would still be more than enough water to cause death which you could never get out from compressions - but the only way the lungs could be flooded like that is if you are long dead anyway, remaining in water after the laryngospasm had eased up after death (though it doesn't always ease up even in death). If you perform CPR on someone and water comes out with each depression of the chest, that is a very bad sign.

In reality, there will be very little water in the lungs of drowned victims. Sometimes none at all. Even very small amounts of water in the airways can cause the larynx to cramp shut, especially if the water is cold. An egg-cup's worth of water is enough to cause drowning.

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My husband and I were actually quite impressed with the CPR done in this movie. It was the most realistic looking CPR that we've ever seen on screen. Their hand placement, straight arms, tipping the head back, hard compressions, etc.

It's so distracting watching a Hollywood movie when they're doing CPR and they're all over the place doing everything wrong. How difficult is it to do it right? It doesn't mess up the movie any to be realistic.


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