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Did this movie also attempt to secretly ask the audience...

posted 2 years ago by TheMan18 (12489)
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... if female on male err, at least, sexual assault, if not the dreaded r word, should be treated the same or differently, than the typical examples with a male perpetrator? Including, not only legally, but morally and in other cases, and why? Even if we do indeed know men are common perpetrators, and also men are physically stronger etc etc etc. Among other examples too.

And did this movie on that front also try to make any kind of statement including of a unique and ground-breaking variety?

Also, was it a mere coincidence that the female perpetrators here happened to be attractive? Did the film want to make any statements here? Or was it more along the lines of - even IF they happened to be this way, its still wrong etc and hurtful and whatnot. And one of the female characters even had a troubled history of such abuse herself, and unlike Michael Haneke's Funny Games (1997 and 2007 movies, Austrian original and American remake), where the male perpetrators actually made certain stuff up, the lady in the film, and it was told in the commentary, actually said it for real. Was that done in order to increase more "sympathy" for her as well?

Not saying I agree or disagree and not to infringe on real life either. But in terms of what the film had to say and what was its message and what thoughts it tried to provoke, do you think it tried to say or ask audience any of it, regardless of what, often rather HARSH truths here, one may already know including how the matter itself is wrong, illegal, unacceptable, hurtful etc?

Cheers.

[–] TheMan18 (12489) 2 years ago

And on a related note, if caught by police and proven guilty, for everything that happened in the movie, how many years in jail are both young women here likely to get, 15/20? Another thing, did the movie also want to ask the audience if they believe that women, as painful as it may be for a lot of us to admit, can be as bad as men or as guilty of criminal offenses with rights violating deeds? And if they can be as strong as them too albeit with elements of surprise and manipulation to make up for perfect matches in that area?

And did the film want audiences to think calmly, rationally and maturely or react with anger but maybe on a lesser extent than if the perpetrator was male, and we have seen ENOUGH such tropes in films to see especially here vengeance oriented scenarios if police presence cannot help and neutralize the terror.

Did the movie also want audiences to ask if it matters that the female perpetrators happened to be physically attractive as opposed to plain looking or otherwise and how we should feel here including if they commit crime including against a male like Keanu Reeves?

And did the film ask us to think about if physically a man can use physical force against such female characters if they threaten him including his life or if its somewhat also as wrong to do it as in typical examples where a man hits a woman/girl for entirely SELFISH reasons making him a bastard, an abuser and an "Ew, look at how bad it is" etc.

[–] TheMan18 (12489) 2 years ago

P.S. To those of you who even REMOTELY want to state - "How dare I ask this?" or accuse me of trying to "insult" anyone etc, besides it being a film, please keep in mind that in reality, these types of questions and queries have been asked by us as individuals and collectively arguably for the time humanity was alive, and plus, the film, with how it showed it all and what it showed, sometimes made us simply think about it all in that sense and unlike life, film offers us to rate certain stuff we see on an artistic level too.

The movie "Basic Instinct" (1992) albeit in slightly different ways, made audiences question such matters also. And even it had certain cinematic techniques as such including beautiful female villain tropes and whatnot although that was an undeniably superior movie to this one. And yeah perhaps, it does sort of appeal so certain groups of people more than others who may relate to it all in their own way.

[–] millsey72 (9542) 2 years ago

Everyone was a villain in this movie from the 2 women to the husband

[–] TheMan18 (12489) 2 years ago

But the husband not exactly a villain though at all, he may not have been perfect. And what about his family, that man who visited??

[–] millsey72 (9542) 2 years ago

The man Louis, who visited was the victim of this movie. The husband and women were villains

[–] TheMan18 (12489) 2 years ago

What exactly did the husband do in the film that was so wrong as to be classified as a "villain"?

[–] millsey72 (9542) 2 years ago

He cheated on his wife

[–] TheMan18 (12489) 2 years ago

Cheating may not be a nice thing to do but it's hardly able to make someone a "villain".

At least in "Hard Candy" (2005), spoiler alert, the man was an actual child molester and a murderer and at the very least, an accomplice to such in addition to being guilty of other actual criminal behavior that at least deems him an officially "unsympathetic victim". If not outright antagonist at least.