A females opinion: "It is a Movie about a mans fantasy"...WTF?

He definitely didn't want it at first but in the shower scene he could of just give them there clothes and said no and left but to be fair who wouldn't say no, but the fact they where looking for a guy who would say no and that mover guy did just that, they still killed him by taking his asthma thing away.

i agree that with a woman it would be consider sexual assault and people don't see it that way when a man says no and gives in. however, what man is gonna go to the cops and say i was raped. he will most likely be too embarrassed and would be worried he would be made fun of.

now let's say he gave in and never said no and banged those 2 girls with no problem, men would wanna give him a high five. if a married woman did that and just gave in she would be considered a slut. yeah i think the double standards issue is sh!t.

Evan never had a fantasy of this, he never asked for any of it. In fact he resisted down the line and said "NO" to the offer of sexing the two psychopathic women. He didn't want to have sex with them or have his life ruined by the devious psychos.

The whole point of feminism is to treat both genders equally, with no double standards.

Which means that if the same thing had happened with swapped genders, the conclusion would have been the same: the first night started off as sexual harassment but ended with voluntary sex. The moment they went down on him, it was obvious he enjoyed it. And he went on to have full sex with them willingly - he admits it in the "free pizza" speech.

The second night, where they tied him to the bed and filmed him, that was rape.

I've never had a fantasy where I said no. I've never had a fantasy where I have ear-splitting feedback played into my ears, or get buried up to my neck, either...




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"Your mother puts license plates in your underwear? How do you sit?!"

What a load of *beep* Evan never had a fantasy of this, he never asked for any of it. In fact he resisted down the line and said "NO" to the offer of sexing the two psychopathic women. He didn't want to have sex with them or have his life ruined by the devious psychos.

I agree with your friend. Up to the middle of the film.

It's more like a man's nightmare but maybe it's about facing fears to some... because honestly I don't think Keanu Reeves in thirty year acting career ever played a married man with children before. In this film he fights Satanist Vigilantes administering their own kind of justice, and most actors working with this role, I think they would deal with the lust component. But Mr Reeves for him to play this role maybe it's more about facing fears about child rearing... Because the wrong thing he did, if you were a thirty year acting veteran, excluding child acting, and you never played a married with children type of character before, it stands out like a sore thumb.

But he's scared. The married director is scared. These women in the movie were spying on him, put Satanic spells on him, and then they went after him in such a manner that it's going to be tough to say no but afterwards the future is compromised forever.

If it was a male fantasy these issues wouldn't be related to systematic abuse. The movie is more along the lines of that song 'Hotel California' than a male fantasy film.

The women in this movie are 'watcher' type people watching him on surveillance cameras and due to ties with law enforcement, they may even feel above the law... but they are watching him and plotting him because he looks like a good family man but they were abused and they think that if they get him to cheat that will justify their generalizations. And they think they are better than the people that did it to them because they will leave him alone and let him heal. But they are still going to be watching him and who knows what they are going to do.

The unfortunate message to the male population is not copulation but rather think twice if it's this easy because it could lead to a 'Hotel California' type situation but now maybe more along the lines of right beyond what can be seen... because they're not really leaving him alone if they're watching him... they might get buddies to harass him. or they may have intentions of leaving him alone but since they are watching him technically they are not already and then they might see him again. What made it seem so easy for them to walk in there and do what they did to him was a lot of emotional planning but it's not going to be easy to walk away from the emotional investment and the way the world is today these are points men keep in mind for their safety, their sanity, and health, wealth and pursuit of happiness.

Honestly, if you watch the beginning of the movie, when they are all talking, the two women are programming the married man to accept abuse. Accept unreasonable conditions by the nature of the conversing... just entertaining silly notions. Or when they are dumb they got to you think dumber than them. They might start off with a wrong point and then make correct points. But the things he's agreeing to based on desire and also just natural social conventional kindness, that mixture, is his acceptance of male abuse moving forward.

This is not the average ordinary man's fantasy. That would more along the lines of two hot babes come to your house and you have unsolicited no strings free materially and metaphysically and you had the time of your life and yeah you to soften the blow 'peed' in both of them but with a hat on so you're not scared for the next three weeks out of your mind and then they left and whatever they were doing anyway, is what kept them from showing up and bothering you. This is what men desire. If your friend ever becomes a film maker or wants to have group sex with her boyfriend or spouse, these are points to keep in mind to make the experience more pleasing and enjoyable for the man. This could be pretty scary. But I think women have similar fantasies... about men needing to be touched so well that that one aspect is kind enough that we can ignore their humanity, their mental condition and quite frankly debase them with no cost to ourselves or them... because quite frankly for instant gratification which is the pressure of sexual pleasure, it could work better if we could get that but we can't. But a woman would be better off trying with that dude than men are with the chicks in this movie and that is kind of unfair to men but at least there are attractive women in it and that is more important to us collectively.... at that level.

Some women watch this movie and have that keanu reeves fantasy taht they could just bang him and get him to leave but in reality if two people are on an ego trip like that, like just because i touched you and you needed touch so much I am great, by nature of ego or pride one of them or both may accept or expect more loyalty from the other... like warming them up too much that there would be a problem, but the fueling of ego can be dangerous. At the least it should be about something, like a desire to be a better person, not ego, in these situations because then you can't expect to walk or even be able to walk later on.

Women get more from men in the film and it's warping your friend's senses.