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What was the point of episode 7?


Was it just to show us a biracial friendship? Is this in the game? We go back in time to meet Ellie's black friend? This show sucks...just more woke propaganda. In real life, the only way a black girl and a white girl would be friends is if the black girl acted like Candice Owens. In real life, Laquesha and Karen Smith are not BFFs. They never have been and they never will.

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Is this a joke?

You think white people and black people can't have genuine friendships unless the black person is some far-right republican?

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in their world, no

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I said to act like Candice Owens...I didn't mention anything about her political views. Owens wouldn't participate in mob looting, she wouldn't throw down at a Walmart, and she would definitely turn her cell phone off at the movie theatre.

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Owens wouldn't participate in mob looting, she wouldn't throw down at a Walmart, and she would definitely turn her cell phone off at the movie theatre.


Is this a joke? It's 20 years into the apocalypse. And yes, white people do loot. By "throw down" do you mean... dance?

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By "throw down" do you mean... dance?


Are you even from America? LMAO you don't even know common black slang. You must be racist.

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No, I'm not from America.

Are you actually trying to make a serious argument in this thread?

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You have no right to speak on this topic because you have never met a black American from the hood. They make your chavs look like pansies.

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What on earth gave you the impression this girl was "from the hood" in the sense that you mean, beyond living in an urban environment?

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The girl has nothing to do with it. If you go back to OP I was talking the friendship and culture. In real life...in America...friendships like that are very rare. This is a fact! The episode sucked...show sucks...woke propaganda!

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I await evidence that "friendships like this are very rare" in the USA.

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Exactly my point! You are not American and don't know our culture or history so STFU!

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You are not a reliable narrator for contemporary US culture.

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As Kamala would say...see it with your own eyes.

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1534492578715951104/pu/vid/200x360/qwXMFOcw72TtRqBm.mp4?tag=12

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1620072875599499264/vid/500x1080/VNunQZUmm1J_qy2k.mp4?tag=14

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1626685688476323848/vid/720x1272/JX0gDO70UuG8zSC0.mp4?tag=16

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1626335490713563137/pu/vid/1280x720/sSCR6BEm1KiZkkml.mp4?tag=12

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1625184313007570945/pu/vid/576x812/kPKD5YqbLUi8GfDl.mp4?tag=14

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Yes, 5 videos defines all black people in the USA

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hey Shavau. we'll "await" video evidence of any white people doing any of these actions in the above videos to black people.

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Are you unironically going to claim that every single black person in the USA hates white people, and can't be friends with any of them?

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we'll "await" video evidence of any white people doing any of these actions in the above videos to black people.

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You're not answering my question. Do you think all black people in the US hate white people?

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once you come up with at least one video where a white man is attacking/killing/robbing a black man i'll answer your question.

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https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/two-florida-men-sentenced-racially-motivated-hate-crime-following-violent-assault-black-man

No video, but here's a report.

Now: Do you think all black people in the US hate white people?

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No, that is just writing on a page. it could be made up bs. As the famous saying goes: "show a video, or it didn't happen". Com'mon man. if whites are out there hurting black people so much why can you not find any videos of it? and, likewise, why is it really easy to find blacks hurting whites? My own brother was hit in the face by a black kid playing the "knockout game". i don't know of any white man who has ever gone around randomly punching black people.

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You will not get any facts or truth from Skavau.

However; he will provide you with: lies, denials, contradictions, obfuscations, and deflections.

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The poster you're replying to is accusing The United States department of justice of making up stories.

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So you are denying that report then? That it didn't happen?

Are you denying this?

https://lawandcrime.com/crime/man-sentenced-with-brother-after-hate-crime-attack-on-black-shopper-told-deputies-if-we-dont-do-anything-about-them-they-will-take-over-the-world/

Now, again, please answer my question: Do you think all black people in the US hate white people?

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simple request. find a video. there's many of blacks hurting whites. where's the single video of whites hurting blacks at?

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Sorry, does a crime not actually happen if it's not recorded?

https://www.tiktok.com/@arinekim/video/7181022782463937835?is_from_webapp=v1

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/hate-crime-caught-on-camera-441501763768

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/17/us/new-york-racist-road-rage/index.html

https://apnews.com/article/buffalo-supermarket-shooting-442c6d97a073f39f99d006dbba40f64b

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/06/nyregion/edward-cagney-mathews-nj-racist-man.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleston_church_shooting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knoxville_Unitarian_Universalist_church_shooting

Now, again, please answer my question: Do you think all black people in the US hate white people?

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went through all of your videos, and not one of them is a video of a white person being violent with a black person. are you unable to find one?

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Sorry, two of them are LITERALLY MASS SHOOTING INCIDENTS WITH THE MOTIVE OF RACISM.

Is murdering black people not violent? Does it need to be on camera for the events, in your mind, to have happened?

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sorry, but urine-stream media "stories" are trash. the news is hoaxing mass shootings with crisis actors. we want real footage not fake lame-stream media garbage. you have to find a real video like the other guy did where whites are violent to blacks. if you're right, and if the whites are really out here hurting blacks, it should not be that hard to find a "single" video. why can't you find even one?! he found like 10 vids already where black are violent to whites!! com'mon!

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So you believe, unironically, that those two mass-shooting examples I gave you didn't exist?

And all the other crimes referred to don't exist?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8zX320mYPE Here's the guy admitting to the Buffalo Supermarket shooting

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/05/16/buffalo-shooting-live-stream/

Apparently it WAS streamed live

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dude, like i said, you're just finding garbage (fake/hoax) news "stories" that are using crisis actors. the news stages these "events" so they can get more people tuning into their garbage urine-stream. you still have yet to find an amateur video of a white being violent to a black like I asked for. all you can seem to do is find "stories". look at the other guy's videos as examples. he gives short quick real video of blacks hurting whites. you only have to find one video of a white hurting a black, and I will concede.

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Provide evidence that these were hoaxes please. Are all mass shootings hoaxes, or just ones you specifically think are? If they are hoaxes, does that mean you think the US government regularly gets involved in setting them up?

You are ridiculous conspiracy theorist.

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you're a loser who can't follow simple instructions. you can't find any videos of any whites hurting blacks. even your lametream media finds are not showing anything. it's all just stories and text. it's simple. if you can't find the videos of whites hurting blacks, you LOSE. you did NOT satisfy the requirement. cya LOSER!

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So according to you every single mass shooting event was a hoax?

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yep. most of them are just bullshit from the mockingbird media used to sway public opinion to do things like take gun rights. anyhow, stick to the task at hand. if the other guy found all those vids of blacks hurting whites, you should be able to find just one vid man. do it or else you're a f'in loser!

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Evidence please

And does that mean you think the US government and local authorities set up Payton S. Gendron, and that he never did any such thing? What happened to all the people killed in that attack?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Buffalo_shooting

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no video? then you lose the challenge. you are officially the loser here.

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There WAS a video of the Buffalo shooting. It was a copycat type crime of the NZ shooting.

https://www.tmz.com/2022/05/14/buffalo-shooting-leaving-10-dead-investigated-as-hate-crime-livestreamed/

Social media has scrubbed it now, but it does exist.

And I'll ask again: And does that mean you think the US government and local authorities set up Payton S. Gendron, and that he never did any such thing? What happened to all the people killed in that attack?

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dude, you are only ever finding lame-stream media "stories". why do you always default back to the "news"? find an actual video of a white person hurting a black person. the other guy who found his videos of blacks hurting whites not even on the "news" can't you find a real grass roots video? like maybe whites on a playground hurting blacks or something? you fail over and over, and that is why you're a loser!

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I just said that video there literally exist (although likely buried by now)

And I'll ask again: And does that mean you think the US government and local authorities set up Payton S. Gendron, and that he never did any such thing? What happened to all the people killed in that attack?

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/buffalo-mass-shooting-suspect-indicted-on-federal-hate-crime-charges

Did Fox News also lie to you here?

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i would not trust any garbage from lame-stream media. the NDAA was signed into law, and that states that the government can legally lie in the news in order to sway public opinion. why do you avoid finding just one grass roots video of a white person hurting a black person that is not on the news. why are your only sources from the BS media? can't you find a simple video? i mean if whites are out here hurting black so much, then you should surely be able to find a simple video of a white guy punching a black guy right? what gives with you?

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When did I say "whites are out hurting black people so much?"

And what is the state of the lie here, are you suggesting that Buffalo supermarket shooter is in on it, or is simply being arrested and incarcerated for no reason?

What happened to the victims of the Buffalo attack?

And if you believe the US state is capable of this, why haven't they arrested you?

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it's like you're an AI bot just meant to generate more comments here. if you don't cough up a video of whites hurting blacks on your next reply, i'm going to mute you.

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I can find plenty of reports, court cases, have shown you some but apparently you think the world is a conspiracy.

I'll re-ask again:

And what is the state of the lie here, are you suggesting that Buffalo supermarket shooter is in on it, or is simply being arrested and incarcerated for no reason?

What happened to the victims of the Buffalo attack?

And if you believe the US state is capable of this, why haven't they arrested you?

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Damn was it really that hard to find 1 (one) video to debunk the other guy? You got btfo dude

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I literally cited mass shootings conducted by outright open white supremacists. Their response was to reject their existence. Are you also going to deny these mass shootings?

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I don't think you want to go over which demographic is very very disproportionately involved in mass shootings.... you can't handle the truth!

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You mean gang shootings - black people, right?

In terms of "person shooting up a school/mall/church/etc"... it's often a young white male.

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Look up the definition of "mass shootings" and don't give me this excuse of "gang shootings". The reality is that mass shootings related to any sort of white supremacy ideology are very rare and extensively covered in the highly censored controlled media while racially motivated crimes done by blacks are covered up

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How are they covered up, exactly?

Most school/mall/church shootings are primarily incel-related or workplace/school bullying if anything.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2022

We could go through this and tally up perpetrators and likely motives.

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Pretty sure Scott Adams just got cancelled for posting a poll that answered a not too dissimilar question.

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No not just five videos. That was just five videos I could grab here fast. Videos like this pop up every 30 seconds on social media. As a matter of fact, I just got a new one right now. This one is very bad and if you defend it..then you're a defender of cold-blooded murderers and you should seek help.

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1630566768820330497/pu/vid/540x960/6jx8N3LfhjEcLbYU.mp4?tag=12

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So do you claim that every black person in the US is hostile to white people by default, and that they cannot and will not ever be friends with white people?

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Here you tell me...

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1629219796653862912/pu/vid/1280x720/jDz-F6ppyzlys8j1.mp4?tag=12

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Not answering my question:

So do you claim that every black person in the US is hostile to white people by default, and that they cannot and will not ever be friends with white people?

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Show me a picture of you and a black person having lunch together and I'll answer that question. Until then STFU you fake outrage real racist never even seen a black person in your whole life.

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The UK is a relatively racially pluralistic society. 19% of our country is not white.

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Then a picture shouldn't be so hard to come up with.

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The UK doesn't have the same levels of racial disharmony as the United States. Are you denying, by the way, the 3 examples of mass shooting for anti-black motives I referred to?

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The UK doesn't have the same levels of racial disharmony as the United States

That's because in the States one side is doing this.

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1630611568634347542/pu/vid/572x584/PuUxOd0a03uDe7VE.mp4?tag=14

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Are you denying, by the way, the 3 examples of mass shooting for anti-black motives I referred to? Did they happen?

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"throw down"
Had to google it. It means fighting

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You got it!

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Maybe to humanize Ellie and to show why she had become so jaded at so young of an age.

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Really? The only thing I took away from that was the black kid knew where to steal all the quarters.

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it's called character development, asshole

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Yeah, I thought that their relationship was sweet and somewhat moving

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In real life, it wouldn't go down that way.

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Epic fail, foul-mouthed nasty person.

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Ellie is also somewhat "foul-mouthed" if you've been watching the show. Probably more than Riley actually.

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I was talking about, TheArgentinian, calling me an asshole. Seriously, try and keep up if you want to continue replying to me.

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i'm just calling a spade a spade

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No you don't! If you did speak bluntly then you would be agreeing with most of what I say. That's why I get under everyone's skin...it's because I say out loud what all of you are thinking.

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get out of your own ass

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Actually, it is you who has their head up your ass. You literally come from a country that has no black people. Your country is almost 100% white! Argentina is the number one whitest country outside of Europe. You're an idiot.

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Everyone, put on ignore this attention-seeking, ignorant, far right troll.

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You're the troll. LOL your country has no black people. I bet you never met a black person in your life. You only know what you see on TV. Put me on ignore...I don't care freak. You're a weirdo anyway.

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He can’t help himself. He comes from a long lineage of fascists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_Fascist_Party

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Nazi_Party

Do you also come from a long lineage of fascists?

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Did you forget it's called "The Big Lie".

A name that also suits you perfectly.

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What does that have to do with the two parties linked? Every country has had fascist parties? Or is the Argentinian poster here fascist purely because he's from Argentina?

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thought that was considered a racist phrase in this day and age.

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Not just friendship.

More LGTV propaganda ... was clear that Ellie had "feelings" ...

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I can only handle a spoonful of woke nonsense at a time. If I add alphabet people propaganda to my OP...my head might explode.

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Ah, more racist posts. Didn't take long...

Signed, million man.

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How do we have conversations if we can't be descriptive and truthful?

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You simply cannot have a conversation with Leftists. They just jam their little greasy fingers into their ears and yell out blablabla.

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You don't think it's racist to suggest that black people can't be friends with white people?

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Yup...even when facts are presented they will still argue their opinion over scientific data.

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It was in some sort of downloadable addon for the game called The Last of Us: Left Behind.

And as for the friendship you say "in real life". But The Last of Us is everything BUT real life. It's 20 years in a post-apocalyptic environment. Everything has changed. Those two societies (our own and the fictional one) can't be compared, I think.

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Good point but that doesn't change the fact that the show is woke crap propaganda.

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Maybe. But at the same time it's kind of unfair to entirely accuse the show of this as it was actually being faithful to the original story:

https://www.giantbomb.com/reviews/the-last-of-us-left-behind-review/1900-623/

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Hey, racist asshat, your ignorant opinion is not reality.

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I don't think you know the definition of a racist.

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It was a filler.

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Two fillers and only seven episodes in. Like I said...this show sucks.

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I assume you mean 3 and 7. And both had a LGBT theme. So they don't send these two to China.

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Episode 3 was filler.

They should have given us a quick flashback of Bill and Frank and then proceeded like in the game where Joel, Ellie and Bill work together.

Kathleen in episode 4 and 5 was filler.

The show needed to spent way more time with Joel, Henry, Ellie and Sam evading anonymous hunters and fighting some infected in the sewers.

Episode 7 was filler

We didn't need this one at all. There's a reason this wasn't in the original game.

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Work together to do what? Walk to the truck, grab a battery and guns, and drive? There are no infected in this show, so to assume they fight together through hordes of infected, randomly, for the only time in the entire series, sounds stupid

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That's the difference between a video game and a series. In a video game, it's more about the shoot-um-up action and less about the story. In a series, it's more about the story.

The episodes you called "filler" really help tell the story.

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