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O- can't donate to AB-


Since when?

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Yeah that was one awful surgeon.

I guess with all the A+ medical school graduates there's a few D- minus ones too.

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A surgeon who refused to do the surgery without officially verified safe blood, starts the surgery without adequate supplies, and then accepts two bags brought to her from out of nowhere. The writers don't seem to be trying very hard.

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Walter O'Brien is the smartest person in the world and if he says it is so then it must be. Since all the other doctors are less intelligent they are by definition wrong.

Or maybe Walter O'Brien is not the smartest person in the world.

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For those who don't know or don't remember,type 'O' blood is the universal donor and type 'AB' is the universal receiver.

If you have Rh-positive blood, you can get Rh-positive or Rh-negative red blood cell transfusions. But people with Rh-negative blood should only get Rh-negative red blood cells except in extreme emergencies. This is because an Rh-positive blood transfusion can cause a person with Rh negative blood to make antibodies against the Rh factor.

Bottom line: O- can donate to AB-.

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Indeed the second they said I blurted out BS! I'm AB- myself and when was 11 I had Scoliosis corrective surgery. My rents organized a Blood Drive for me and and almost every donor was O type because it's the only one compatible with EVERYTHING.

I usually don't call Scorpion on it's mistakes but since I have personal experience I couldn't let it slide lol.

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Just watched. Pretty sure they said Lutheran blood type. Quick search online showed...

Beyond the ABO blood type and the Rhesus (Rh) blood type, the International Blood Transfusion Society recognizes twenty-eight additional blood types with names like Duffy, Kidd, Diego and Lutheran. But Langereis and Junior have not been on this list. Although the antigens for the Junior and Langereis (or Lan) blood types were identified decades ago in pregnant women having difficulties carrying babies with incompatible blood types, the genetic basis of these antigens has been unknown until now.


https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120223183819.htm

Not really willing to do more research to show if it works as shown on the show, but yeah, guess it's more complicated than ABO and Rh.

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Damn it, I guess I did feel like looking it up some more.

But a few days after her admission, the doctors told Francisca that blood tests had revealed that she had a rare blood type, shared by 0.2 percent of the white population: Lutheran b-negative. To complicate the matter, she was also O-negative—the uncommon, but not officially rare, blood type that many of us have heard of, shared by around 5 percent of people. The combination made Francisca’s blood so rare it would be difficult, if not impossible, to find a match for her.


http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/10/the-most-precious-blood-on-earth/381911/

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Yep, I rewound it and it did say Lutheran AB-.

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Ha! A bit of trivia, I have 5 children, 2 boys and 3 girls, and 3 of them have AB- blood types. What were the chances?? At least if any of them need blood they know where they can find an emergency donor.

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I would only worry if you be male and with the same lady and there were various blood groups all fathered by you???

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Ha! A bit of trivia, I have 5 children, 2 boys and 3 girls, and 3 of them have AB- blood types. What were the chances??
If you are AB- and your spouse is AA- or BB- (or vice versa), then the chances are 50/50 per child so three of five fits (about 3 in 10 chances).

Note that when I say AA, I mean two copies of the A blood type gene. This is distinct from someone AO, with only one copy. Both are blood type A, but AA fits the genetics you describe. Also 50/50:

AA w/ BO
AO w/ BB
AB w/ AB

Now, if you were AO and BO, then this would be unlikely. Still possible though. About 88 times in a thousand because there is a one in four chance per child. If you told us all seven blood types, we could probably tell you which of these is true.

If you were AA and BB, then all your children would be AB.

I'm neglecting the higher chances of miscarriage for some mother/child pairs. That actually helps the AB chances in this case. So maybe better than 50/50 or one in four.

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I'm usually pretty forgiving of this show because I enjoy the characters, but this episode had me wincing too. Not so much because of the blood type, but if the girl was that close to death without a new heart, why wasn't she already in the hospital?

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but if the girl was that close to death without a new heart, why wasn't she already in the hospital?


The time restraints weren't because she was going to die in a few hours without the heart, but because a donor heart is only viable for transplant for a short length of time. After a certain time period the donor heart tissue starts to die and it couldn't be used. If they hadn't been able to use that heart she would have had to go back on the donor transplant list and wait for the next available heart with a tissue type match for her.

She probably would have died eventually without a new heart, but she wasn't in immediate danger of dying within the time restraints they were racing against to get the donated blood.





I don't know what they have to say. It makes no difference anyway. Whatever it is, I'm against it.

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Maybe I remember it wrong, but I thought that when the doctor was checking with Walter's progress, she was saying the girl was not doing well and seemed to indicate she was close to dying. It certainly would make more sense the way you describe it.

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But that was because she was losing so much blood during the surgery, not because her heart was giving out.

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The girl's condition was worsening, and I think it was pretty clear death was imminent without a new heart. But it felt more like it would be days then it would be hours on that front. As others had said, the real time crunch was the viability of the transplant heart. I think the focus on her condition was more to emphasize that if this didn't happen, the odds of finding another donor heart before she expired was very small, not that she was going to die right then that day in the hospital.

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