I don't have kids, so I'm pretty ignorant about teenagers, but do high school kids really go out roaming around and throwing big boozy parties on school nights now?
It seems like if even one of those girls had just ONE parent who enforced some basic rules. . .well, there wouldn't be any story to "inspire" a movie.
What's going on? Have parents lost all ability to control their children because social services are just a phone call away?
Just curious--I'll go back to my butter churn now.
Haven't seen the movie yet but did catch the Dateline story. It's pretty scary if they do. Sometimes I feel teens have too much freedom. (had to laugh @ the churning butter comment)
My daughter just turned 18 and will be a senior this upcoming year in high school, so I can say this I am aware that some things have changed since I've been out of high school, (my 20 year reunion was 2 weeks ago!) I know I partied on the weekend and on some weekdays. My daughter, freshman and sophomore year she was allowed out only one night a week unless her grades were perfect, her chores were done and she didn't get into any trouble. So basically she hardly went out that I knew of. Her friends on the other hand were always going out and they never had a curfew. Her junior year I let her go out a little more and well, let's just say kids will be kids! I was an *beep* to my parents, and as the saying goes it comes back 3x worse.. Well, it sure did! She became me at 17 but worse! Ugh! I can't wait for her to have kids! I can, you know what I mean!
a actually agree with you that the above poster is a shi7 mother. and you don't wish children on YOUR children.
you are in control of the situation. and if you are not then you have to regain control. if you can not regain control or think that the control is not yours to regain, then you should relinquish your rights as a parent. Miss Hannigan is a better parent.
what is this 'that we know of' stuff? either you know or you don't. you have to raise your child/ren to be able to eventually take care of themselves. if they are too busy 'kids being kids' then when does the line get drawn? when do they graduate from being a kid to being an adult?
and this is why we have 15 year olds getting pregnant and then never leaving home. that is... if their parents [who are most likely only 15 or so years older than THEIR kids have ever left THEIR parent's homes, that is.
the teenybopper cycle continues.
the daughter is not horrible, though. she is testing the waters. the parent is the one driving the bus. the parent is in control. the parent relinquishes control to the child and the system [look at your child wrong and they call ACS] and then the child has control.
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but I also teach and I can tell you that the kids are not at fault. their parents don't know how to parent.
some don't care.
some don't think their gallivanting lives should stop when they have kids. which is why they are grandparents at 32. you can't blame the child for their upbringing. but they should take their upbringing into consideration and actually want what is best for their kids and do the right thing. if they are so smart to stay out of work and get on the dole when they are able bodied, then they can save money for the important things and not plasma TV's.
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whose to say the female teachers are actually guilty of this? kids lie, ya know!
and we are either giving the kids carte blanche to do whatever the hell they please because we are too afraid to go overboard with discipline or we believe every blessed word out of their mouths. cause we don't want to find out the truth and shame the kid, now do we???
and guys like you... so you are a pervert? pedophile are ya??? YAH!
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And yes, some parents are totally clueless and totally inept. Even if they get a clue, by high school it is too late to instill discipline and change the basic character of the spoiled, entitled brat they raised.
I've been watching some teen stuff lately--Finding Carter, Faking, Awkward. Apparently it's no longer a big deal if your parents walk in and your boyfriend's on top of you or the two of you are snuggled up in your bed together. And parents let kids throw keggers at home before they're old enough to get a driver's license. Wow.
I guess it's good I didn't have kids because I would have been the meanest mom in the world and they would have HATED me.
My kids probably would have run away and ended up Lifetime Movie Channel homeless teenage hookers.
My mom was way too permissive. I was a 90s teen and had no curfew. I used to go to clubs with a fake ID and party til 3 and 4 am. It's a miracle I didn't end up as the inspiration for a Lifetime movie of the week.
Well, FWIW, you're showing an impressive degree of maturity now, recognizing that being too permissive doesn't do a kid any great favors in the long run.
Well, I can tell s/he's achieved a certain level of self-awareness, a degree of insight into the past and the sense to appreciate that his/her life might easily have turned out quite differently, probably worse. That's all pretty major stuff.
I can also tell, from this thread, that you're strangely proud of being so predatory. So here's another odd and presumptuous statement: You seem intelligent and your posts suggest you count drive, good character assessment skills and persuasive charm among your talents--isn't there anything you could do with all that besides scoring on vulnerable females? You'd be the perfect person to organize a fundraiser for your local foodbank. (Your Marine buddies will still admire you if you accomplish something in your personal time besides getting laid.)
I was similar. However, I had straight A's, did volunteer work and was a model son. They let me do whatever I wanted. I also had a fake ID and got into bars on school nights. By the time I got to college I was already partied out and buckled down. I don't think my upbringing was bad, even if my parents were very permissive. Better to make your mistakes underage than finally go off to college and screw up.
Though is old, i will say i never went out and partied like the other folks that went to my junior high and high school did. I'm 24 now and never have partied.