Rabbi Raquel cruel


I found Raquel's abrupt ending with and ghosting of Josh to be particularly cruel. He just sacrificed a deeper relationship with his son for you, your mutual baby is lost and you rip his heart out at that moment because you didn't get a proposal fast enough? Ouch.

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She didn't leave him because of the lack of proposal - she left him because he went to the party on the night that she miscarried. She needed him to be there, and he couldn't be because, well, he's Josh.

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I don't even see the appeal.
Josh seems so removed and a walking mess.

The music thing was the only way he could even get women in the same room.
Then came the rabbi and I just couldn't see what she saw in the guy.

He's not funny, he's not charming, and he's fairly rude at times.
I feel bad for him all the same because he IS a mess, but to me if I were a woman I'd find him VERY resistible.

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She didn't leave him because of the lack of proposal - she left him because he went to the party on the night that she miscarried. She needed him to be there, and he couldn't be because, well, he's Josh.


Um, not quite. Watch that episode again and Josh wants to stay home with her but she insists on him going to the party so she can basically up and leave while he's out of the picture.

Raquel, although not as inherently narcissistic and awful as the rest of the cast is still a flawed character. The way she did her damndest to get Colton out of the way, and I always felt she was only interested in Josh so long as "they" were pregnant.

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Did we all watch the same episode?

Josh did what he always does, seems unsure about wanting to do anything 'normal,' says umm, and then shoots out an answer he THINKS you want to hear. He doesn't actually feel compelled to offer moral or emotional support because he is a 'manchild.' The loss of her child caused enough grief to finally put the nail in the coffin to their relationship. He's simply incapable of growing into a mature man she needs right now.

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Josh treated Raquel and Colton horribly and got exactly what he deserved. Raquel didn't need him there that night, she wanted to start trying to have a baby as soon as possible because she is on a biological clock. Josh was the one who said he wanted to wait, that was the deal breaker and the reason why Raquel left the way she did, if she had left with Josh there he would have begged and cried until she gave in and gave up on her dreams for him. Josh was the one who sent Colton away and you could tell Raquel was not happy with him because of that.

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I didn't care for Raquel. I was a bit sad that he let his son, Colton, go though. I think having Colton around might have made him grow up a bit. Hopefully, he gets a second chance.

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I think he was the cruel one in that situation, and I don't think she left him just because she didn't get a proposal. When they lose the baby, it's almost as if he's relieved. He tells her he's sorry SHE'S going through this, and he wants them to slow down and think about what they really want, when they were already living together and expecting a child (and then leaves her alone to go to a party?) Understandable why she didn't want to waste her time.

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She wasn;t being cruel, she was saving herself from being terminally sucked in to a very destructive family.

When Josh's true attitude about the baby came out, she was shocked into taking a fresh look at him. He doesn't want what she wants, he didn't really want the baby, he never even bothered to propose when they got pregnant (I know it's not as big a deal to have children out of wedlock in our modern society, but if a Rabbi is part of a pregancy, they need to marry the other parent quickly, because being an unwed parent will reflect poorly on them members of their congregation.).

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I did not like RR's character. She seems too emotionally unhinged to be a rabbi. I know there are PLENTY of effed up members of the clergy, etc., but for the most part, I do believe most have a degree of composure, maturity, well-adjustedness, and magnanimity that Rachel does not display. I find it hard to believe that she would have made it through her religious schooling and training displaying this behavior (and that she'd screw her cantor on a whim and jeopardize the relationship) - just seems unrealistic.

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I love Rabbi Raquel!

I totally get why some people don't like her.

But I totally identify with her. She's devoted so much time and talent to becoming a rabbi and is questioning the sincerity of her belief in God. But she wants to serve people. Messy, insufferable, unpredictable people. I can tell how important it is for her to serve people, and then find she hasn't the patience for the privileged, selfish Pfeffermans - even as she loves them and finds them charming.

I found her meltdown over the Hinani seder so relatable. To see Sarah -- who hasn't put one nanosecond of actual devotion into her religious practice -- attract so many people to her "pop-up" services (which couldn't happen without the talented, thoughtful and devoted Racquel - her candle ritual was FANTASTIC and sincere and lovely at Tacos con Torah! You could see the congregants melting into the moment) has to be so frustrating. I mean, Racquel has studied, practiced and WORKED for her devotion. She loses a child and a relationship, and she doesn't feel the presence of God in her life.

I don't think she's cruel at all. I think she's as lost as the Pfeffermans, but so much more honest about her lostness.

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