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Almost glorifies a very bad man.


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Just saw this on Film4. Although it was somewhat eluminating, ultimately I was unimpressed and uncomfortable with how it portrayed a mass murderer and criminal. Almost romanticised his reputation and exploits, compounded by the fact that 95% of the people interviewed looked up to him as a hero. Even if some didn't see him that way, you can bet they wouldn't dare say anything negative, purely out of self preservation.

Also, the documentary ultimately fails to deliver the pay-off, an interview with the man himself. Normally I'd let that slide, but what bugged me was the makers continually insinuating that they were "getting close". No, you weren't remotely close. You don't get close to a guy like that unless he wants to talk, and he clearly didn't want to talk or participate. If anything he made sure to send the film makers on a wild goose chase, away from his true location.

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I personally didn't take that away from the film at all, infact the opposite. What parts glorified him? the only people to say anything good about the bloke were those that worked for him and his mother. Also I'm not sure if you're saying that due to the Narcocorrido music that runs throughout the film but I know the music if you've watch another documentry called 'Narco Cultura' and the reason is clear. There's an ever growing section of Mexican/American Mexican young population that writes songs about their exploits and look upto them as hero figures, which is disturbing to say the least.

I'd have liked to have known more about how he became the most powerful Drug Cartel boss while he was in Prison, but I suppose that wasn't the main objective of the doc and to cover everything woud have turned it into a 3 hour Documentary.

All the way through the movie though we are reminded by interviewers, especially the one with journalist Anabel Hernandez and the very graphic pictures and videos of bodies and decapitated heads, as well as bodies hung off highway bridges, the true cost on society of the drug trade and leaves you in no doubt that there is no glamour to be found. I do think it does a decent job of separating fact from rumor about El Chapo and the theme is very similar to docs about Pablo Escobar.

For me the fear of the filmmakers is palpable during the film, especially as they get closer and closer to the home of the man and tbh I'm surprised they got as close as they got, no one else has. You come away from the film with an idea of exactly how very deep the corruption goes in Mexico and you know at the very least the Local Mexican military knew where he was all along and they as we saw were completely in the guys pocket.

Imo If El Chapo had no intention of going on camera at all, he wouldn't have let them anywhere near him full stop. They'd have had zero chance of getting anywhere near his home turf if he didn't give word. So I suppose you can see it both ways. Why waste his time giving the filmmakers the wild goose chase when he could have easily chased them out of the country if he wished. It's not as if he didn't have other things to worry about. The way it ended with him being caught not long after spoke volumes of probabably why he didn't want to take a chance to go on camera.

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I didn't see it as glorification of El Chapo, at all.

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The reality is that some of the people who work for him also admire him and the film maker also pointed out that many of the families of these same people have been in the drug trade for generations. This is all they know. Some of the armed guards hadn't ever seen a gringo before so I assume that they grew up and died in the same area. So, you have a group of people who are very dependent on one employer to feed their children, of course, they are going to admire him but that doesn't mean that we, the viewers, should accept their obvious biases as fact. If anything, I felt bad that a young man or woman can grow up in a world that is run by drug cartels and never get the chance to realize that there is anything more.

Anabel Hernandez did an excellent job of showing the psychopath that El Chapo really is. She is a brave woman. I am not certain how anyone could hear her tell the story of Zulema and believe the documentary showed El Chapo in a positive light.

What about the film of El Chapo interrogating a man tied to a stake. The guy clearly said that El Chapo had killed the man that was with him. It was obvious that El Chapo was going to kill him too. That isn't positive either.

They were very close to El Chapo, much closer than anyone else so far. I think he was playing a game with them, just like he did in prison with his interrogators many years ago. By promising to meet them and then not doing so, he was letting them know he had the power, not them. The fact that he allowed them to interview his mother and film his son's mausoleum is an indication that eventually he was going to agree to the interview. He just toyed with them first.

The man who interrogated El Chapo in prison didn't have a positive view of him either.

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People were obviously scared to say anything bad about him because then they'd have to deal with reprocussions, so that's why you see most ppl only talking about his good sides.

And about not being able to deliver a interview with himself, that's really besides the point the movie is about the legened of El Chapo and seeing wether or not they could find him or not (which they eventually did) also they are no magicians, if you spend months on filming a documentary about El Chapo and then not manage to get an interview with him should they delete all that hard work they did?

I for one thought it kept my interest very well, and sometimes it's not about the destination but the journey and the legend remains regardless.

I'm chill. I'm chill as a cucumber, man.

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