Religion is unhealthy - Kreuzweg (2015) Discussion

[–] sfviewer123 10 years ago

Wrong wrong and wrong again.

Religion is like guns or money—neutral in and of itself, it's all in how people (mis)use them.

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[–] allardd 10 years ago

You might be right about money but guns are made to kill. Gun ownership should also be discouraged. But that is a whole other discussion. I recently reread the Old Testament where whole cities got massacred, women and children got enslaved, what was left burnt down. All in the name of God. It was very much like reading a report on IS. You can't say that the Bible is neutral in itself. If taken literally, it is dangerous stuff. That's why it should come with a warning just like cigarettes come with a warning.

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[–] setarehjuventina 9 years ago

The wise person understands that something that was created thousands of years ago cannot be taken literally. Also, it's hard to always be sure of their literal meaning. If we reference the film...does the bible really have opinions on music?

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[–] Komond 9 years ago

Just to be honest and how little reading capacity you have, he never said "Christians", he just said "God" and "religion", so I'm quite sure he meant all of them Abrahamics (Jewish, Christian, Islam) and non-abrahamic even.

By the way, Old Testament is not equal to Torah, only the first Five Books (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deutoronomy) from Old Testament are the Torah, all the rest (quite a few, 19 to be precise) aren't.

You're probably talking about Tanakh, but more surely you're talking just about things you aren't even close to know just for the sake of blame and ridiculize someone for saying bad things about Christians and not Jews or Muslims when he's actually talking globally about religions.

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[–] musicbymartin 9 years ago

Guns are made to kill, no doubt about this. I'm reminded of Eddie Izzard parodying the NRA -

"Guns don't kill people, people kill people, but monkeys also kill people . . . . If they,be got a gun"

So if guns are made to kill, what are bibles made for? Whether you have religious belief or not, the answer can only be "to spread the word" which they undoubtedly do.

So, bibles don't make people do stupid things, people make people do stupid things (but monkeys would also do stupid things, if they could read a bible )

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[–] GateKeeper13 9 years ago

Who asked for your opinion?

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[–] Knag 9 years ago

Who asked for your opinion?

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[–] echotheorem0988 9 years ago

I don't appreciate your ANTISEMITISM!

Did you *beep* your pants, COWARD? I like watching self-confident anti-theists strut around with their anti-Catholic rhetoric... UNTIL, of course, you remind them that they CAN'T be against our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, WITHOUT also standing against the House of David!

You want to slap a warning label on Bibles, huh? Well, why don't you publicly -- that is, in person -- place warning labels on Torah's with reference to Judaism having "negative effects on your mental health." Make a public spectacle of it on TV or YouTube while you're at it. Make sure everyone has your real name and where they can find you afterwards!

You know what you'd get slapped with in return? A HATE CRIME! It may be fashionable and tolerable to persecute Christians', but if you're a real atheist, through-and-through, and not just some COWARD that likes taking cheap shots at Christians alone, then for every time you spit at Christians you better go and spit on a Jew AND a Muslim, too! Well, let's see you do it, "though guy."

The one will take you to court and have you imprisoned, while the other just might take your tongue or your head altogether. Go ahead. Let's see how tough and smug your kind REALLY is against those that FIGHT BACK!

The truth? You're just another little faceless, nameless COWARD on the internet... but Jesus still loves you, and that's more than I can say for now.

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[–] TopFrog 9 years ago

Somebody has a victim complex in very bad way, not to mention serious reading comprehension problems. What part of "Bibles and other holy books" makes the OP's comments "anti-Catholic rhetoric" or limits them to being directed "at Christians alone"?

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[–] connelly-shawn 9 years ago

Just ignore the troll. They always go away when their nonsense fails to generate a response.

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[–] connelly-shawn 9 years ago

I suspect that you fail to understand the difference between fantasy and reality.

>I wonder why no one is making a film about Boko Haram or Al shabaab, or
>about one of the hundreds islamic terrorist groups that actually exists.

To OP never mentioned any specific religion.

But you felt the need to criticize the less than 1% of a billion Muslims who are lunatics! Good job!

Even though all religions have their nut cases, I personally feel that any religious belief that demands obedience to a mythological deity and that deity (god) comes first before family, other humans, and the natural world... is a delusional sickness. It is also a crutch for people who find the world too overwhelming. They *need* an omnipotent god to be their moral compass because, without that god and the fear of punishment, they might just become a liability to others.

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[–] MrBanBan 9 years ago

Even though religion is present in this film, I do not believe that this movie portrayed religion in a bad light. I think it says how people do not understand it, and how people do not understand God, there is a separation again, and this film, I believe, is also against child abuse and bullying. What is not allowed here is proper growth and development of the children - this is clearly visible, because language is something that develops naturally, we are hard wired for language, and the person that is at fault is the overly controlling and abusive mother. People have said that it's okay for young people to explore, that is part of growing up. Also, the laws of Moses are to be interpreted, which is what the Priest is doing, and again I do not think that he is doing anything wrong here.

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[–] punishable-by-death 9 years ago

Please elaborate on how this movie could possibly be portraying religion in a positive light?

Her mother even sounds like a Nazi, truly insane and unstable.

"Some may never live, but the crazy never die"
www.epilepticmoondancer.net

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[–] svelnuspukeli 8 years ago

Problem is not religion, but the fact that religions are extremely outdated, it just don't work anymore like it supposed to work.

who never met a bottle of whiskey he didn't like (Ravenous)

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[–] straw_hat_boy_luffy 8 years ago

Your religion is your ultimate concern. It's impossibly to discourage religion, only to promote another in its place. And if you do that, you've essentially become what you preach against. By promoting the discouraging of popular religion, you demonstrate that intolerance would still run rampant all on its own.

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