Can someone explain what it's trying to say? Is it a movie about relationships? Authority? The ugliness of people? The consequences of loneliness? I know some people will say I'm a moron for not getting it, but I'm trying to understand.
Try not to reply with "Go back to watching Disney."
Its very dystopian. But to answer your ?s yes the film is about all those things you mentioned.
dystopia - an imagined place or state in which everything is unpleasant or bad, typically a totalitarian or environmentally degraded one.
It sounds like you pretty much got it. i would just recommend another viewing. Its a very surreal and existential cinematic experience. I'm not calling you a moron don't worry lol.
i thought it was a masterpiece of modern cinema.
The most vague response ever, just beating around the bushes. You clearly did not understand the movie.
Dystopia is a setting for the movie. It's not what the movie is ABOUT.
"I'm not calling you a moron don't worry lol." - but you make yourself look like one with this answer. Either explain what the movie is about, or if you didn't get it - which is clearly the case - then don't try to pretend that you did, kid.
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What a smug, pretentious twat you are, WoodCheese. You must be hilarious at parties...
*beep* off, you goddamn *beep* *beep*
My god, Woodcheese. You are the most pretentious person I've ever witnessed online. You criticize people for having opinions, but you never share yours. Whenever I see that you wrote the next post I'm about to read, I get up, go into the next room, and swallow a heaping bowl full of rusty nails; because it's much less painful than listening to your negative BS.
Your lack of intelligence is showing for everyone to see. You sir, are a D O U C H E of the highest (lowest) order.
Alright then, enlighten us. Tell us what you think the movie was about. WE are waiting.
No way could I watch this film again! Didn't mind that it was dark, but my god, the monotone of the characters & the pace. Ahhhhh! Forced myself to watch it till the end, thinking there must be something redeemable that I'm missing...
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<< No way could I watch this film again! Didn't mind that it was dark, but my god, the monotone of the characters & the pace. >>
I thought a lot of it was really funny : )
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They should have be filmed in North Korea.
A masterpiece of nothing..
Give yourself more credit, I think you understand the movie a lot more than you are letting on. Those 4 questions you asked pretty much covered the main themes or concepts of the film, in my opinion. Sometimes a film just takes a while to digest. Especially the really good ones. But it seems like you got it.
shareTo be honest I don't think anyone understands the movie, including the cast. Apparently Yorgos the director didn't like answering the actors questions about the movie. As such I think it's a film where you just take it for what it is. Maybe you find some sense in it or maybe you don't.
I took it to be a movie about authority/herd mentality of humans and also about our perceptions of normal. Everyone in this movie behaves as though they are on the autism spectrum and therefore that is the films 'normal.'
Also something that came to my mind is, we never actually SEE anyone become an animal. We see the girl with beautiful hair as a horse but how do we know she is the horse? How do we know people aren't just killed in the transformation room and animals are brought out?
I took it to be saying something about the nature of fear and how often we are afraid of things that aren't true or real, but those fears keep us in place.
I thought the society that is dystopian had BECOME dystopian because people actually preferred to stay single and unattached. They had to have a ritualistic process imposed on them to force them to look for a mate. Otherwise, it would be just too easy to drift, alone and isolated.
Fall in love, fall in love! NEED to fall in love! Hence, masturbation is tabu.
Also something that came to my mind is, we never actually SEE anyone become an animal. We see the girl with beautiful hair as a horse but how do we know she is the horse? How do we know people aren't just killed in the transformation room and animals are brought out?
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Although I wonder if it would have been simpler just to tell the people they would be executed if they didn't find a partner? It seemed the animal thing was largely about scaremongering them into forcing companionship (hence the whole, you've earned a few extra days, etc). Telling them they'd become an animal might just give them an element of 'ah well, I won't bother with the love thing'. Colin Farrell's character, for example, chose a lobster because of the benefits he saw in living as a lobster for a while, suggesting that he was at least anticipating it from a practical standpoint.
I will tell how I see it in a nutshell: it is about conformity. Even when you rebel, when you end up in the rebellious human group that will also have rules limiting you. The cherry on the cake: even love is a human construction based on rules. Did he conform by the end? The non-conformists became non-human.
shareInteresting.
shareGood points.
shareI think that's right, but they hit us over the head with a hammer pushing that message. I don't mind movies that are bizarre and surreal, but I actually prefer when they are not so bludgeon-y and have more style (like David Lynch's Mulholland Drive and Lost Highway, or the French film Holy Motors).
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In my opinion,
In this movie what I noticed was that emotions weren't real. A time in the future where technology improves and where humans get set back 1000 years in emotions, going back to the very basics. I felt like every actor here played as an individual, rather than a team. Everyone had their own thing to do, part to play. putting the acting more towards themselves rather than focussing on: whats my relation with this other character'.
This is what I would call an emotional rollercoaster type of movie. You want this or that to happen, but it doesn't. Constantly teasing you with idea's but in the end, pushing you back to reality and showing you what our Collin's mission was all about.
The knowledge I gain from this, it showed me that you can't force or fake love. You can't be anyone different, be you! Choose a partner not because of the similarities, but for the beauty of differences!
Don't feel bad beautiful. You're not a moron. This film was a moronic piece of fascist crap. A giant steaming turd.
Schrodinger's cat walks into a bar and doesn't.
Ha ha! Well, the one thing I can say for it is, it did make me think. Even the next day I thought about this movie that I thought was bad.
shareYou keep calling it fascist. I don't think you know what that means.
shareIts a pretentious pile of sh*t ....
shareI didn't like it either. It seemed like it was trying to be like a Wes Anderson film, but the actions taken by the characters were always so bizarre, that I found myself going "are you f'n kidding me?"
I admit that I read the premise and knew I would have to suspend disbelief, but this film pushed my limits. I almost turned it off a couple times out of boredom.. That's not what you want your audience to feel.
I kept thinking of the Grand Budapest. Maybe because they were both hotels. In the middle of nowhere. And random ppl in them
shareI watched this movie last night. I rather think it will be like "Under the Skin", a movie I hated when I first watched it and thought a terrible waste of time. However, I couldn't stop thinking about it and over time now think it was a very good movie.
Interestingly one thing that struck me in "The Lobster" was he actually made a connection with the hotel maid/Loner. They actually expressed emontion to each other. However, both were so damaged that they could not see an actual human connection when it occurred.
Be who you are. Everyone else is already taken.
I just want to add, if you are thinking of watching "Under the skin" try reading the book first. It is a short book and an excellent read.
It gives all the background of the main character, and having read it, many scenes in the movie which puzzled me made perfect sense. Not only that, knowing where the main character came from, you could see how good a job the lead actress did.
Be who you are. Everyone else is already taken.
Is the book even related? I confess I haven't seen the Under the Skin film adaptation but the book was so downright nuts I just assumed they took the 'female alien abducting men on a motorway' thing and went an ENTIRELY different way with it. (Plus, Isserley's backstory and motivations are so badly developed in the book it borders on parody - not sure why they bothered to incorporate any of that into the film)
shareIt did have some Wes Anderson aspects, but not nearly as well done.
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I took it to be an interesting response to how a lot of dystopian fiction sees love as the ultimate rebellion. See: We by Yevgeny Zamyatin, Orwell's 1984, even Brave New World to an extent. It was a twist to see it in this sense that love and companionship is essentially forced, and being single and autonomous is the rebellion. Of course, the eventual, genuine love story sort of ruined that point, but it was still a cool concept.
That said I think a lot of it was creepy and artsy for the sake of it. There are a lot of themes running through it but I don't think you should consider yourself stupid for finding it a very confusing film in general.
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I generally agree with your critiques, although I thought the positive aspects of the film were enough to very mildly recommend it (6/10).
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