i don't like shows with subtitles....great cast, but you have to pay way too much attention and read. they need to figure out how to make it in english.
way too much reading. you can't turn your head away for a second..thank goodness for DVR and the ability to rewind. please do not make me read or do math for my entertainment.
Were they going to be authentic or not? Reading a line or two isn't taxing.
Kisskiss, Bangbang
Wow, this is one of the more tragic IMDb posts I've read recently. Maybe you should stick to activities that don't require you to exert even the slightest bit of mental energy, and be the passive, witless vegetable you so clearly aspire to be.
sharePassive, witless vegetable. Haha. Yep. Pretty much.
shareAre you joking, or are you a complete Mr. McGoo?
shareToo bad for you, the coolest movies ever made were by Ingmar Bergman and they're all subtitles, I feel for anyone that doesn't get to experience his genius. Oh well, duhhhhherrrp.
"All the donuts have names that sound like prostitutes"
-Tom Waits
Ever heard of the term Ugly American? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ugly_American_(pejorative)
share@veronica, i take offense to the term myself, what country ISNT ETHNO CENTRIC? every german believes mercedes are the only car to own, and in japan you buy honda or nothing. americans are actually THE MOST ACCEPTING of other cultures, dont believe me? ask a thai guy when the last time he had mexican food/italian food, and a burger IN THE SAME WEEK. people stick to their own cultures and tradtions cause its what they are used to.
shareYes, but German tourists in Italy are a lot harder to spot than American tourists. I did a ton of travel and I always claimed to be either Canadian or from El Salvador (when I felt like Spanish would be a better choice than English) because of the negative connotation of an American tourist. Go to Legoland in Denmark and then Legoland in San Diego (where I live) and you'll see the massive difference between the Americans and the Europeans.
Sure, all cultures are ethnocentric, but Americans expect everyone to speak English, to know all of their cultural references and to be just like them...other cultures are not like that.
Having moved to Europe I must say...spot on. Americans are loud and very pushy. Amsterdamn airport full of potheads asking about weed and the locals rolling their eyes.
shareAmericans tend to be culturally insensitive unless they are from big cities where they are exposed to a lot of different cultures. I think it's because we are such a big country and on our own continent. There is a lot more chance for cultural exchanges in Europe where they can visit 5 other countries during one weekend on a train. That's why they also tend to speak more languages as well. So we may have people who can't appreciate different cultures and look for a McDonald's when in France but whatever. No ones perfect. And we aren't all like that.
shareI´d rather meet ten american tourists than one german. Sure americans can behave like they own the world but then they actually did own the world for most of the twentieth century. Germans however, are terrible people and I am really thankful to the americans for kicking some serious german a** in the fourties. So americans are really welcome to Sweden as far as I am concerned.
shareThis whole "Americans are pushy" argument was really amusing to me, considering I'm a Russian who moved to America. America is a big country, and it's a melting pot of all kinds of cultures, and different kinds of people, so when you say "Americans are pushy" you're labeling more than just "Americans."
People are definitely different in America though that's for sure. Rudeness seems be a state of "norm" here. It's quite sad, but I've often wondered just how some people manage to keep their jobs with how rude they are to customers.
Also I hate going out to eat in America because tips aren't weighed in with the menu, so a waitress/waiter is constantly bugging the sh*t out of you. "Are you enjoying yourself?" Like 3-5 times in one meal sometimes. What I'd like to say is, "Yes, now go away and leave us alone the rest of our meal!" I mean jesus, and people in America actually enjoy being pandered to and having some waitress/waiter pretend like they give a sh*t about them, and aren't just sucking up to them to try and get as big of a tip as possible lol
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Doesn't make it untrue. America is a big country! Funny you should mention Siberia though, as that's actually where I was born. Still not a fan of East coast summer weather, and not sure how people can stand the humidity!
shareI agree. Every country has people that are loud, obnoxious and ethno centric. People just like to b1tch about the US.
shareI agree with what you're saying, just a side note.
Being a swede who has spent a lot of time in Thailand, there are plenty of McDonalds', Burger Kings, italian restaurants and some (although not as many) mexican places in Thailand. Not just in Bangkok and the typical tourist destinations, but in every major town, especially the ones that have a Central mall. So chances are, if that Thai guy has an income that lets him travel to the US, he could easily have mexican, italian and a burger in the same week without even leaving Thailand :)
After reading that comment I now know why there are so many dumb american shows. Please just keep watching your "simple" shows and leave the "hard" stuff to those who like it that way.
shareWell, I like foreign and even silent film, so I don’t have a problem with subtitles per se. But there’s an art to writing them and editing them with the dialogue at the same time. It’s the kind of thing that adds to production costs when done well by directors who are looking out for their foreign audiences. This show is not exhibiting that art. It has placed too many lines too close together, and in chunks so big that, like the OP said, you can’t take your eye off the print for even a second without missing what the actors are doing. When that happens, you’re not really watching a story but reading one. There is also too little (or no) attention paid to the font. I doubt they even proofed for whether words were fading by blending into the background or were generally too small.
If they adjust the lines of Swedish dialogue so as to better accommodate the subtitles, I’ll love this show. But right now I’m having trouble with it in a way that’s uncharacteristic for me.
i don't like shows with subtitles....great cast, but you have to pay way too much attention and read. they need to figure out how to make it in english.
way too much reading. you can't turn your head away for a second..thank goodness for DVR and the ability to rewind. please do not make me read or do math for my entertainment.
Yes, most Americans are lacking in advanced reading skills and refuse to watch anything with subtitles, unless they are hearing impaired. I have to read the subtitles to my husband on anything we watch (when I can convince him to give the movie or show a shot). He, like most Americans cannot stand to have their faults pointed out. Don't get me wrong, my husband isn't stupid by any stretch. He was just very poorly taught in school.
sharelorrainearmstrongfl
I understand what you're saying, or I'm really trying to.
And I truly don't mean to be rude or anything, but that's exactly what I'm
trying to get a grip on - what is considered "advanced reading skills" by American standard?
I've heard people don't want to take their eyes off the actors, afraid to miss something.
For us, reading subs, in either Swedish or English, generally doesn't take more than a quick glance.
Admittedly, I personally am, and always have been, considered "advanced" in English.
I actually credit much of that to video games.
When my generation grew up everything was in English, unlike now,
when many games are in fact released with Swedish subs.
However, we learn English in school very early, so the younger generation still have that, thankfully.
And I certainly don't mean that your husband is stupid by any means,
it's the general standard of American education I'm after.
I remember being younger, watching the Tonight Show with Jay Leno.
a certain segment called "Jay Walking" where Jay would ask random pedestrians
different questions, most would consider "common knowledge"
And the answers some people gave.....*sigh*
I swear to you, for a very, very long time, I was convinced those people
were actors, just goofing, whatever - but no chance in Hell, that they were for real.
Some didn't know who Adolf Hitler was...
An alarmingly large number seems to believe that Europe is a country..
(Sidenote, though certainly not limited to Americans - I absolutely hate it, when people refer to Europeans as if we're "all the same" even when fully aware we are Not a single country. One could however truthfully argue that there are different regions of Europe that are indeed more similar than others.
Such as Great Britain or northern Europe - Scandinavia, of which Sweden is a part. Though, should be added about Scandinavia, that we've been drifting further "apart" both culturally and politically during the last decade or so I would say. And I don't necessarily mean that as a bad thing at all, just that our differences now show more)Apologises, became a "sidier" note than planned.
I recently got a glimpse of a show of yours "Are you smarter than a 5th grader"
I believe it was called.
There was this one girl, who knew that French was a language but wasn't
sure if France was a country... You knew they spoke it in Europe though....which she of course thought was a country..
My point, I'm trying to get to, is that the young 5th graders in the show,
seemed seemed truly amused at how bad the older contestants were.
The question the girl got was "Budapest is the capital of what European country?" Which, naturally, didn't know was a country either,
but the 5th grader answered quickly, with ease, and correct as it eventually turned out.
I got the impression that the show featured "average" 5th graders,
and not selected bookworms.
So my question is finally, has your education gotten better through the years,
because it would certainly appear so. And great, should so be the case.
Oh, how I wish you could see the look on your face...as I rip it from your skull
Sadly, our education has seen a steep decline over the past 20 years due to a confluence of the testing culture and apathy.
I have been fortunate to work in several different industries in varying positions and have seen the proof first hand.
The below links detail what I have been taught for the better part of my adult life; all forms, applications for employment, websites, etc. should be written at a 5th grade level.
<url>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12594317/<\url>;
<url>http://www.readabilityformulas.com/articles/business-brochure-writing.php<\url>;
<url>http://askville.amazon.com/average-reading-grade-level-United-States/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=2581222<\url>;
Sorry that I messed up the coding. Their used to be a way to edit your posts, but I can't locate it anymore.
shareIt might not be that; I have issues with them as well but not because I can't read them, I just find that when I stop what I am doing so that I can read them that they're already gone & I have to rewind it. I almost never sit in front of the tv & just watch it; I multi-task and do more than 1 thing at a time like cleaning, reading, grading papers, or going online so I usually have to stop what I am doing in order to read them.
sharecinsmith1
Ok, well that's just not really how you're "supposed" to watch television, is it?
If That's your problem, you'll just have to watch those particular shows when all your "chores" are done.
Oh, how I wish you could see the look on your face...as I rip it from your skull
Says who? Most of us do other stuff while watching tv, if we didn't we'd never get anything else done. The average American watches 34 hours of tv per week, works an average of 46 hours per week (at work only, doesn't include what they might bring home which could bring that number up considerably, sometimes up to as much as 60 hours per week), spends an average of 5 hours a week commuting to and from work & sleeps an average of 60 hours per week; that's 145 hours per week and there are only 168 hours in one week. That means they have 23 hours a week to cook, clean, bath, eat, finish up whatever work they brought home with them, etc.; that's less than 4 hours per day (and less than 1.5 for those that bring home 14 hours of work per week). Besides, it's not like it's an intense drama that requires your undivided attention.
shareTV shows are not worth that much attention. I disagree that that is not how to watch TV. If I had to use 100% of my attention to watch TV (like I do a good movie) I would either never get anything else done or not watch much TV. For me, TV is a background medium and mostly audio. I find most TV shows require less than 10% of my attention to follow (and enjoy). Having to actually look at the screen seems preposterous to me. Apparently I am in the minority. THAT scares me more than someone saying they don't like to READ their TV. Heck, I don't really want to WATCH my TV shows.
shareprobably not all americans...just me.....i do too much "multitasking"...but i usually have my laptop or phone on my lap while i am watching tv.....reading IMDB or playing spyder, checking emails, etc.
i do not want to watch a show with sub titles....when there is something equally good without them...
don't cry, AngiveL.