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Is the extended version worth seeing?


I noticed it was on Netflix.

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Certainly. It will keep you chained to the screen for 210 minutes, that's how good it is.

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Sounds like sarcasm.

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I didn't know there was an extended version. It would depend on what the extra scenes are.

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It's been available on Netflix recently.

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A good, detailed article in the Guardian makes the point that while the total running time of the series is at least a half hour longer than the movie...there's just about nothing new.

Because much of the new material is simply, at the beginning of each "episode," "re-running the opening credits"(that great shot of Jesus with the great Morricone score) and then running a "previously" scene with footage already seen.

About the only thing to make it into the series that wasn't in the "wide release" of The Hateful Eight is a scene of Mexican Bob plucking a chicken.

But, I , personally, SAW that chicken plucking scene when I saw The Hateful Eight in its first week of release in 2015. However, the chicken plucking scene was REMOVED from the DVD version that I own.

The Guardian article suggests that perhaps QT just wants to help promote Once Upon a Time by putting this "special edition" of The Hateful Eight on Netflix. Its OK by me, I still love The Hateful Eight, warts and all. I'll summarize that is the cast(every single actor is either one of my favorites or here impressive), the cinematography, and Morricone's score(both new and re-used) that makes the movie especially fun for me

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Thanks for the info, Ecarle. Basically you're saying that, if you've seen the original version, you don't really need to see this version, since there's nothing really new.

I appreciated a lot of the film the first time I saw it in 2016, including the superb opening sequence you noted, but the film's (intentionally) offensive aspects turned me off and left a seriously sour taste. I decided to give it another chance about 20 months later and 'got' it.

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Basically you're saying that, if you've seen the original version, you don't really need to see this version, since there's nothing really new.

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Yes...the Guardian writer seems to have been assigned to go over the mini-series with the proverbial "fine toothed comb."

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I appreciated a lot of the film the first time I saw it in 2016, including the superb opening sequence you noted, but the film's (intentionally) offensive aspects turned me off and left a seriously sour taste.

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As with other QT films, I think one has to accept the offensive stuff(QT has said this is his "heavy metal" side and you have to accept it as such) even as so much of the rest of the package is great. And for me, even some of the offensive material in Hateful Eight is great(the entire scene about the poisoned coffee is at once disgusting AND brilliant suspense filmmaking. Jackson's story about Bruce Dern's son? Not so much.)

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I decided to give it another chance about 20 months later and 'got' it.

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Sometimes a second chance can be helpful. But QT will never be considered a "delicate" artist, I don't think.

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I was familiar with Tarantino's style, but some things turned me off on my first viewing. Braced for this, here was my conclusion after my second viewing (from my review):

The amusing melodramatics are entertaining and the story keeps your interest despite the one-dimensional setting. Everything's SO exaggerated that you can't take it seriously. The movie's intentionally offensive and you have to roll WITH the excesses to be entertained; otherwise you'll hate it.

The excellent opening with the figure of Christ dying for our sins keys off the theme, which is humanity's fallen condition and dire need of redemption. The title, "The Hateful Eight," is a perversion of "The Magnificent Seven." The latter celebrates the noble and heroic whereas this movie parodies the base and odious. Tarantino is poking fun at our petty hostilities that separate us based on race, gender, sectionalism, faction-ism, envy and rivalry. Furthermore, men divided by hatred of culture & race can unite in hatred of something else, in this case misogyny.

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The amusing melodramatics are entertaining and the story keeps your interest despite the one-dimensional setting.

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Yes. Much of what is said by most of the people is pretty funny and exaggerated -- Russell is doing a combination of Yosemite Sam and John Wayne with his own proclivity for sarcasm. Jennifer Jason Leigh sometimes sounds like Granny Clampett("Yep, we're in CAHOOTS.") Tim Roth, mimicking the absent Christoph Waltz's acting style and gestures, is doing a very funny, exaggerated British accent(honestly, has Roth ever sounded like that in his OTHER QT films?) And a few players are doing their "usual thing" but more of it(Michael Madsen, Bruce Dern.)

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Everything's SO exaggerated that you can't take it seriously. The movie's intentionally offensive and you have to roll WITH the excesses to be entertained; otherwise you'll hate it.

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The excellent opening with the figure of Christ dying for our sins keys off the theme, which is humanity's fallen condition and dire need of redemption.

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Its been said that the second most important scene to a movie -- other than the ending - is the beginning. Or in this case, the credits sequence AND the camera movement AND the music (not to mention how creepy and skeletal this Jesus looks.) This shot also repeats later in the film to show us the same statue, earlier in the day, against a clear blue sky -- with new meaning.

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The title, "The Hateful Eight," is a perversion of "The Magnificent Seven." The latter celebrates the noble and heroic whereas this movie parodies the base and odious. Tarantino is poking fun at our petty hostilities that separate us based on race, gender, sectionalism, faction-ism, envy and rivalry. Furthermore, men divided by hatred of culture & race can unite in hatred of something else, in this case misogyny.

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In certain ways, I think the critics and QT's interviewers at the time just "went right past" his very dark statement here. It should have been debated -- it is food for thought. Literally, can we all get along? Or something closer to it? Culture, region, race...sex...The Hateful Eight keep asserting themselves against each other along those lines and it would be very depressing if it wasn't so outlandishly presented.

But -- in the manner of all great movies(or very good ones), these tough themes emerge from the entertainment value of the film itself -- its great look, its great setting, the actors, the writing, the music, etc.

Think back on 2015. As usual , QT delivered a movie worth talking about and impossible to forget.

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