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As much as I liked the movies. Bill was full of ****

posted 9 years ago by shiningthrough
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In general he's right about human nature, but there is no grand conspiracy that the rich have against the poor. His answer isn't some conspiracy. It's GENETICS. Rich people, more times than not, are those who created wealth for themselves and others.

People are people.

The richest man is a human.
The poorest man is a human.

The problem with humanity is humans. Bill ignores the fact that most of recorded history his seen the world's people enslaved or in poverty for most of their lives. It is only now in recent times that any measure of wealth and freedom has been extended to the common man on a large scale.

And guess who's responsible for that Bill? GUESS? THE *beep* rich man! Why? Because he needs workers! If it wasn't for him you wouldn't even have a career.

But sure, being some radical leftist that believes everyone is out to get the poor is an easy cop out. If you've ever worked in government and seen the diversity of all peoples then you'd realize that people just don't give a s***. Man goes to work, gets his day done, and goes home.

The problems with our government are the natural evolution of this type of society. And by expunging all those people all you'd be doing is resetting it to happen again. If we're ever going to reach a type 1 civilization, then we have to go through the harrowing trials of a type 0. And guess what Bill? You were lucky as *beep* to be born in this era.

You wanna change something? Get an education. Learn how to be a producer for the economy. Support the sciences, entrepreneurs, and innovators of your time. We're all playing a lotto as we enter into the world with our new ideas. Many of us don't make it, but the ones that do benefit humanity.

The world is getting better. You guys just can't handle the bad. This isn't a utopia. So find a niche in our economy, try to have a good life, and support the growth of society.

For those of you who wish to really learn the truth and see how we can achieve real prosperity as a nation. Not just BS you hear in movies, watch Free To Choose. Here's a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3N2sNnGwa4

“The society that puts equality before freedom will end up with neither. The society that puts freedom before equality will end up with a great measure of both”
― Milton Friedman

[–] spamzwik 9 years ago

Its MUCH easier to blame a specific group of people for your own misery. Yea, there are people with money that are born into it or just lucky with a big lottery ticket. But in general, wealthy people stay wealthy because they know how to handle money. Invest. Run a succesful business. They make their money work for them.

Whereas middle-class/poor people just blow it on vacations, toys and terrible purchases, they generally don't know how fast to spend it. But sure, blame the wealthy while you buy a house you can't afford or the iPhone 12K, et cetera.

Know who else blamed a whole group of people for their problems? Hitler.

So yea, all those disgusting poors are literal Hitlers.

[–] manco82 9 years ago

Bill is full of crap. He has no idea how wealth is created in the first place. He thinks it's just *THERE* and the Rockefellers "took it".

But Bill is just Uwe Boll's mouthpiece. Uwe Boll's politics are just standard ignorant leftist fare.

[–] mikebourkefan 9 years ago

the speech could have been from Brendan Fletcher's own mind his words for Bill. Fletcher did co write the script with Uwe

Rob Zombie is one of the greatest directors today

[–] targa9 9 years ago

You didn't get the movie at all, obviously.

[–] targa9 9 years ago

If you ever read Locke, he says that wealth is created only by workers. For example, go into a forest. Is there wealth there? No. Only when labor chops down trees, and uses the timber to build something, is wealth created.

Yes, of course the capitalist creates the enterprise and hires workers, but to think that without a particular capitalist, some other person couldn't take his place, and that we owe all our jobs to capitalists, is just falling into their propaganda, as if they're indispensable "creators" of wealth. The truth is, both workers and capitalists are needed to make wealth. But if you see what has happened since the early 70s, profits and production have increased in America as always, and corporate CEO and mgmt salaries have skyrocketed (as well as owner wealth), while the wages of workers have FLATLINED. How do you explain that, other than just greed?

This movie was good because it says stuff the media never talks about, because the media, being part of a huge media giant corporation, does not of course undermine itself. And so this is why the economic news in mainstream media is limited to stock reports and which billionaire or hot new app to discuss, and never about the workers and their plight. Look at Walmart--the most profitable biggest company ever--and how they treat their workers--they tell them they should apply for foodstamps instead of giving them a living wage. Yeah, keep believing the Horatio Alger bootstrapping anecdotes if you want--for every anecdote there's an equal and opposite anecdote to cancel you out. Rely more on statistics and you'll see the truth of how the rich are just raping America, selling out US jobs to foreign workers, and getting out of paying taxes and getting corporate welfare, all the while complaining about the lazy American worker. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. I'm sure you'll be in the top 10% in no time!

[–] klauke 8 years ago

what a load of horse *beep* Workers only create 'wealth' because someone hired them and told them what to do. Without those orders, the 'workers' would be sitting in their own filth, eating mud. Do you think MOST people are capable of looking after themselves without someone hiring them, telling them what to do, and then paying them for it? Why do you think unemployment even exists. Its pure ignorance to say that employers/businessmen are a nothing special, and if one wasnt there they'd be easily replaced... that just simply isn't the case, since workers are literally a dime a dozen and the vast majority of them have little to no education and wouldn't know the first thing about managing or organising jack *beep*

At the end of the day, a go-getter who is intelligent and can run a business can ALWAYS do the work himself IF he had to (thats how most businesses start), but the average worker sits on his ass needing government handouts if they cant find a job. FACT.

Well aware that this is an old post, but when I see utter socialist/leftist ignorant nonsense like this, I cant help myself. The message in this film is idiotic and simplistic rubbish, as is anyone that thinks along the same lines.