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Is putting the Villians on the island a bad idea in the 1st place?


I think putting the villains on the island is a bad idea in the first place. Since with no villains on the mainland, how are the good guys' children be able to prove that they're well heroes like their parents? Heck, Mal/Jay/Evie and Carlos proved that they're more heroes than (their Aurdon Prep) classmates since they had one (kind of scary) adventure together prior to the movie.

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I know the Villian kids were the heroes in this movie.


But my point is.. that because all the villains being exiled to the ISLE of the Lost/Leftovers/Forgotten it allows the original heroes/heroines kids to grow up to be spoiled brats, etc. Since UNLIKE their PARENTS, THEY have NO VILLIANS to FIGHT. So how could the Original good guys; kids prove they're worth their parentage lineage as 'good guys' if there aren't any villains to fight?


So in a sense the idea of exiling the Villains kind of backfires back on Aurdon because 1)it allows some kids like Audrey&Chad to become spoiled brats. 2)Princes/Princess/sidekicks (ie Dopey/FG/Genie)'s children have no way of proving themselves because who do they have to prove themselves against with no villains?

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I can see the flaws though. I mean, half of those villains on the island, including Maleficent and Evil Queen, died in their movies. Why not leave them dead instead of bringing them back to put them on an island along with other villains. You're just asking for trouble by dumping them all in the same place with a magic shield, then allowing them to stew/boil with rage/make plans to break out and take control after 20 years in captivity. I know this kinda derails the whole plot of the movie, but does it not make the heroes seem cruel by bringing them back from the dead and imprisoning them as punishment? Death wasn't punishment enough?!

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As Jafar has once proven with Hades' help, it's not enough punishment.

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A comic book story put up a good case explaining the Evil Queen's survival.

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Really? What was it? :)

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I don't recall the title but I remember how she survived.

During her fall, she kept hitting some rocks in the mountain, preventing her from falling fast enough to die from hitting the floor.

She had spies who saved her from becoming vulture food.

The falling boulder isn't seen but one can easily deduce it didn't hit her.

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Cool:) thanks for that;)

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Everything about this movie was a bad idea in the first place.

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Your existence is a bad idea Magnusplin.

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That doesn't even make any sense. Also, grow up! People have differing opinions? What a travesty! *rolls eyes*

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No you are a pathetic hater who needs to get a life and stop hating on Descendants because that is pathetic! Hating on something so much is what doesn't make sense and that is what you pretty much always do. So *F*U*C*K* of and just start loving stuff that you leave and don't pay any attention to stuff you hate like the rest of us all do. That is what you're supposed to do on IMDB and everyone knows it and does it as well so quit being a low-life hater and start getting positive opinions on movies, tv shows and actors something in which you really fail at doing and you need to make a start at. So you have a lot of work to do so go away and sort out your problems.

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People are allowed to hate what they want. Especially if what they hate is a godawful, cheap movie that's an insult to Walt Disney's memory. Also, I DO have positive opinions on certain things, but clearly you're too stupid to notice that (even if clicking on my profile takes all of three seconds).

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Of course people are allowed to hate what they want, it's just then when dumb *B*I*T*C*H*E*S* like you take it what too far and are always hating on something then you are just being pathetic and need to just spend your time loving stuff you love and ignoring stuff you hate! It's what everyone is supposed to and is the key to the enjoyment of life which you could never comprehend because your such a miserable fleabag. Hating is the most stupidest thing you could ever do so you are the most severest case of *F*U*C*K*T*A*R*D* there has ever been!

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well the books are much better



the villians are helping the trio

The parents are vacant and its actually the evil witch that Tried to poison Cinderalla and she goes back to Isle of the lost there parents get stuck in the tunnels





Look like Tarzan talk like Jane! HAHA

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I think putting the villains on the island is a bad idea in the first place. Since with no villains on the mainland, how are the good guys' children be able to prove that they're well heroes like their parents? Heck, Mal/Jay/Evie and Carlos proved that they're more heroes than (their Aurdon Prep) classmates since they had one (kind of scary) adventure together prior to the movie.


Are the parents of the mainland kids all heroes? They are certainly all protagonists who struggled against various problems including opposition from antagonists (only some of those antagonists were also villains). But it is not certain that all the fairy tale protagonists were heroes who fought villains. In fact there are probably a few versions of those fairy tales that make the protagonists seem like villains in the eyes of some readers.

Remember that Nazis and Commies made many propaganda films and stories about Nazi and Communists protagonists who they considered heroes, but who most non Nazies and non Communist people consider to be villains. Thus it is possible for the protagonists of stories to be anywhere on the scale between good and evil, to be heroes (in the eyes of some people) or villains (in the eyes of some people) or just normal people striving to achieve their goals or avoid disasters.

Suppose that a child tries to get cookies from the cookie jar without permission and the kids mother tries to prevent that. Someone could write stories in which either the child or the mother was the protagonist, and the other one was the antagonist. But neither would be what most people consider a hero or a villain.

Considering the many evil villains who have been depicted as heroes and/or protagonists in many misguided stories (including a few Disney ones) all the Aurdon Prep kids seem good enough to be protagonists.

Why would anyone want the protagonist of a story to be a hero? If you like a fictional character enough for her or him to be a protagonist in your eyes, why would you want enough bad things to happen to him or her to make that character suffer enough to be a hero?

And remember that anyone who struggles against another character, as many heroes who fight villains do, becomes at least a little bit, and sometimes a lot, less good than they were before. If someone is a hero enough times it will make them as bad as a villain.

So I ask why it is considered necessary for the Aurdon Prep kids to prove that they are heroes, so much so that the villains on the island should be unleashed upon innocent bystanders.

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So I ask why it is considered necessary for the Aurdon Prep kids to prove that they are heroes, so much so that the villains on the island should be unleashed upon innocent bystanders.


Not the villains but their kids. Their kids, as Prince Ben pointed out, aren't responsible for what their villain parents did.

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When I posted:

So I ask why it is considered necessary for the Aurdon Prep kids to prove that they are heroes, so much so that the villains on the island should be unleashed upon innocent bystanders.


I was not responding to Ben's decision to let the villains' kids go to the Aurdon school.

Instead I was responding to the OP:

I think putting the villains on the island is a bad idea in the first place. Since with no villains on the mainland, how are the good guys' children be able to prove that they're well heroes like their parents? Heck, Mal/Jay/Evie and Carlos proved that they're more heroes than (their Aurdon Prep) classmates since they had one (kind of scary) adventure together prior to the movie.


My point is that it is not necessary for high school students to prove that they are heroes by fighting evil villains, and thus locking up the villains on the Isle of the Lost so they couldn't make trouble for the population of Aurdon was not such a bad idea as the OP suggests.

I meant that proving that the Aurdon Prep kids were heroes is not a worthwhile enough reason to unleash the adult villains upon the world.

So I ask why it is considered necessary for the Aurdon Prep kids to prove that they are heroes, so much so that the villains on the island should be unleashed upon innocent bystanders.

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