Shame he died in the end. I though it would have been better if he survived the fall to add to the fact he can never do anything right
I wished he had got away with it. He was a nice person deep down and not a psycho like Tommy
He did add some great comedy relief to Season 2.
Not sure how serious your post is.
I understand you, but John was a very selfish man. It was all about him, and his excuses and self-justification. No thought for his family, or how he was hindering the police investigation (and thereby endangering other women).
Little sympathy from me!
If there aren't any skeletons in a man's closet, there's probably a Bertha in his attic.
Nope. Killing someone in a fit of rage is one thing but what he did to her afterwards just to save his own skin was deeply disturbing.
shareWell, he slaughtered someone in a grotesque and horrific way and was content (delighted even!) for someone else to take the blame, so he was by definition bad, but...I think we all felt the excruciating tension at the briefing when he felt the net close in around him (before he went to get his "flu remedy"!)
I think we would all have instinctively been putting ourselves in his place - maybe we haven't killed someone, but I'm sure we've all been in a position where a poo-storm is coming and you feel that choking sensation as destiny comes knocking.
Was anyone (during that briefing scene) thinking "Go on! Catch him! Arrest him!"?
"for someone else to take the blame" would be the someone else who had committed the crimes he was copying.
shareThere really was only one way out for John and that's just what happened.
Whatever one thinks of it - the actor Kevin Doyle deserves some sort of award for his portrayal in this. Its one thing to stand out as a good performer amongst a load of average players - but to stand out in what was an incredible cast is something else. At times I felt as though I was going to have a heart attack for him - you could feel his panic!
Poor Mr Moseley!
Time flies like the wind - and fruit flies like bananas!
He was a slimy git and I hated the character -which means Doyle did it to perfection.
It's too cerebral! We're trying to make a movie here, not a film!
You guys are being too harsh on the character
He set up someone who raped 19 year old' girls
John was a saint who tried to help good people. The only people he hurt were Evil
You guys are being too harsh on the character.
John was a saint who tried to help good people. The only people he hurt were Evil.
Did you see John's temper tantrum in his car in this last episode, where he was thrashing around and yelling that he hadn't "done anything" and how unfair everything was--when of course he had done all kinds of bad things.
I thought the primary target of his rage was the fact that Daryl had confessed to killing all the women except for Vicky Fleming. If not for that confession, John might have gotten away with his crime forever.
So instead of raging at himself for committing adultery and murder, John rages at his misfortune that Daryl had a chance to tell the truth before he was killed, as well as his bad luck that other witnesses were stepping forward as a result of Daryl's confession.
John refuses to take responsibility for his own actions. It's a hideous character flaw.
Not to mention, Daryl deliberately stated that the reason he killed the last victim was because he was angry over being blamed for Vicky's death.
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I'm being serious people
John wasn't a Scumbag or slimy.
I'm shocked at the lack of sympathy on here
I'm with you.
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I may be a huge fan, but I'm certainly not a fanboy.
not to be taken seriously at all..... smug OP wants attention.
John was Kevin from Series 01, another whom I am sure you would say was a thoroughly decent chap. Entitled, bitter, totally immature and irresponsible. The key to them both is the lack of self awareness and the ability to blame everybody else for their own terrible, terrible decisions.
IF you are serious OP then you need help to integrate into society, if it is a joke, then it isn't a very good one.
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He was a scumbag and slimy. If he hadn't been a slimy cheating scumbag, he never would have been in a position to be blackmailed.
shareSlimy?
More of a loveable nerdy shy guy who was seduced and get in over his head.
He wasn't a horrible people so I don't get this Scumbag talk. The other cops seemed to like him
In his defence let's not forget that Vicky was attacking him when he strangled her. Her punched her twice and she wouldn't back off and continued to attack him
It was straight up manslaughter
If he'd left it at that, certainly. But he raped her with a broken bottle. He picked up the body and threw it in an abandoned area; he burned down her apartment, he lead and moulded things to make her murder get pawned off to someone else, and he didn't even acknowledge the very obvious signs that they'd gotten the wrong person, just because he was so desperate to have someone hang for HIS actions.
His initial actions were totally understandable - I agree. It's everything he did immediately afterward that made him horrid and vile scum.
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It's me....Bara...it's always bloody Bara!
Wow bit harsh saying he raped her Body.
He just damaged her Vagina
Same thing.
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It's me....Bara...it's always bloody Bara!
John could have perhaps been a good man if things had worked out differently. He clearly was not a psychopath, just an unbelievably weak man, who like Kevin in series 1, ended up in way over his head and allowed things to spiral out of control.
Once he made one terrible decision, he topped it off with more and more until he lost sight completely of who he was. He was immature, weak and never took responsibility for his actions and this is what killed him in the end. I think he genuinely wanted to do the right things to begin with but once he'd killed Vicky (and yes, that was manslaughter), he lost his moral compass completely.
Ironically, although what John did was more horrific than Kevin (Kevin never intended for Ann to be raped) and John was responsible for two deaths, I ended up hating Kevin more when he implied to Nevison that Ann's rape was his "punishment" for not giving him a raise. They were very similar characters, however, in their cowardice.
Kevin Doyle was brilliant, he has an incredibly expressive face.