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Hollywood taking kickbacks from The Marijuana Industry too


It finally hit me that the reason why Hollywood's pushing marijuana use so hard, might be the same reason they feature so much tobacco use in movies. Capitalistic greed and the advertising money these industries are willing to pay to have their products glamorized by movie stars. Coffee too.

I use none of these so I'm hyper-observant about how often movie characters use them. It's gone WAY up except for tobacco use which has been pushed for a long time.

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... marijuana ... tobacco ... Coffee ...

I use none of these ...

That speaks volumes.


"In a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
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Do you drink alcohol? Because there's WAY more alcohol use in movies, a reflection of our let's get drunk because it's acceptable society. Some people just have to ignorantly scream about the dangers of that gateway of all gateway drugs - marijuana. Meanwhile nobody questions why bars have parking lots, but we know as a result kids can become speed bumps in a pinch. Milk is a gateway to alcohol by the way.

Also, I'm not sure what movies you're watching, but tobacco use is almost non-existent in films now. Again, a reflection of our society since the number of smokers in America has dive-bombed and forced the likes of Phillip Morris to take his Marlboro man and head off to Indonesia.

And coffee?

That stick has to be tickling your throat by now.

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Hi. It's "the other clown(that replied to my post)". Let's talk about that post.

Hollywood taking kickbacks from The Marijuana Industry too
Wow. Catchy title. Inflammatory, with the promise of some real insider information on par with the crackerjack investigative journalism of such tomes as "The National Enquirer" and "The Globe". And just like those publications, the words under the headlines fail to deliver. Instead, we get the same old rhetoric. Ho-hum.

But wait, there's more! We also get some revealing personal details:
... marijuana ... tobacco ... Coffee ...

I use none of these ...
I'm sorry, could you elaborate a bit on that second line?
I use none of these so I'm hyper-observant Stop!
This ie the part of the movie where the image on the screen freezes, accompanied with the sound effect of squealing brakes, followed by a fast-motion rewind to:
Hollywood taking kickbacks from The Marijuana Industry too
I knew something was fishy, and it wasn't the fish emulsion in the garden. Let's look at this page- http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3397754/companycredits- where they list the production companies. I'll do the leg work, I wouldn't want you to tax your "hyper-observant" faculties:

Archer Gray....................................................New York
Bad Medicine Films (in association with)........North Dakota
Maven Pictures..............................................New York
MeMo Films (in association with)...................Italy
Raptor Films (in association with)..................Dubai/New York
Tashtego Films (in association with)..............New York

Maybe it's my less than "hyper-observant" senses, but I don't see "Hollywood", or for that matter, "California" on that list.

Maybe you should burn a big ol' fatty, then kick back with a pack of butts and a triple red eye and do a little fact-checking prior to your next rant.


"In a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell

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I'll do the leg work
Where's the leg work?

Archer Gray....................................................New York
Bad Medicine Films (in association with)........North Dakota
Maven Pictures..............................................New York
MeMo Films (in association with)...................Italy
Raptor Films (in association with)..................Dubai/New York
Tashtego Films (in association with)..............New York

I don't see "Hollywood", or for that matter, "California" on that list.
Oh, this is what you're calling "leg work?" May I suggest you cut-back on the weed and you might think a little clearer. If you were thinking logically, did you really think I was saying Hollywood or California were paying the film industry to glamorize the use of marijuana? Do you also think "production companies" would be how these industries advertising fees would be credited? Would they even be credited at all?

Are you challenging the fact that the tobacco industry has paid Hollywood for having their product used in movies, for many years? It's a fact, do your "leg work" and you'll know it.

Why is it such a stretch to imagine, other industries would pay Hollywood too? My post speculates that since marijuana has legality on it's side, they'd be doing just like the tobacco industry. There is a noticeable increase in marijuana use, in movies, by the highest profile actors.

Have you ever noticed a Bekins(moving and self storage) box, conspicuously visible in a movie? It's called "product placement" and it's the most irritating form of arrogant advertisement, because they believe they can enter our consciousness without us even being aware.

I won't bore you with a rant on capitalist greed right now, but it gave birth to "product placement" along with corporate renaming of sports venues. My fight is against capitalist greed, Hollywood's elite superiority and all the "thought modification/control" that Hollywood and the media try so sneakily to influence us with.

Yea, Tho I Walk Thru The Valley Of The Shadow Of Political Correctness...🇺🇸

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If you were thinking logically, did you really think I was saying Hollywood or California were paying the film industry to glamorize the use of marijuana?
Not hardly. I took the title of the thread "Hollywood taking kickbacks from The Marijuana Industry too" to mean that you were accusing Hollywood of taking kickbacks from the marijuana industry. But considering how "hyper-observant" you are, your keen senses have read entirely too much into my reply. So again, fatty, butts, but this time skip the caffeine. Now, explain what Hollywood has to do with Ten Thousand Saints (2015). And while you're at it, feel free to refute this statement: "It would be a disservice to "10,000 Saints", considering the time period and the demographics of the characters, to not include the depiction of the use of marijuana."

"In a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell

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And while you're at it, feel free to refute this statement: "It would be a disservice to "10,000 Saints", considering the time period and the demographics of the characters, to not include the depiction of the use of marijuana."
It wasn't just marijuana. I was born in '77 and growing up I never saw this much drug use. I never knew anyone that used anything harder than marijuana and I never knew anyone as promiscuous as Eliza. In this movie everything was exaggerated.

The reason I said I was hyper-observant to these things, was to help people understand where I'm coming from, as far as how none of it gets passed me. I'm a rebel and I'm rebelling against Hollywood liberals and political correctness.

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I was born in '77 and growing up I never saw this much drug use. I never knew anyone that used anything harder than marijuana and I never knew anyone as promiscuous as Eliza.
Sorry, but "because I didn't see it, it doesn't exist" is not a logical argument. If that's all you've got, perhaps a site dedicated to arguing the existence of God, bigfoot or mermaids might be more suitable for you.
how none of it gets passed me.
The exquisite irony ...


"In a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell

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I guess you ran away. I suppose it was the smart move on your part. But before you stomp off and slam the nearest door, let's summarize:

- You give the thread an inflammatory title accusing Hollywood of "taking kickbacks from The Marijuana Industry", but failed to provide one iota of corroborating evidence. You did, however, prove that you don't know shack jit about US geography.

- When called out on the error of your accusation against "Hollywood" you, whether intentionally or out of sheer ignorance, start babbling nonsense likening a 125 year old international moving and storage company to some chucklehead smoking a reefer in a movie. Along with more "Hollywood" hyperbole.

- When asked yet again, this time in the simplest of terms to "explain what Hollywood has to do with Ten Thousand Saints (2015)", you either:
a- finally figured out what I was asking (and why), realized how foolish you looked, and decided to ignore the issue.
OR
b- included the answer in your "ostrich defense" reply. (More on that to come.)

- When asked to refute the statement: "It would be a disservice to "10,000 Saints", considering the time period and the demographics of the characters, to not include the depiction of the use of marijuana.", your response was that your head was so far in the sand that you didn't see it where and when you were growing up, therefore it didn't exist (the "ostrich defense"). Except in this case I don't think the sand was where your head was wedged.

You mentioned you were writing a book, "A Guy Named LeafyGreen, Defends Marijuana[sic]". I certainly hope that you are more able to stay on point than you demonstrated here, or your book about weed may devolve into a dissertation on "My Little Pony". I look forward to seeing it in the 75% off bin at my nearest 99 cent store.


"In a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell

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You're the lonely guy, that needs to antagonize to get attention. Sorry, your arguments bore me.

Yea, Tho I Walk Thru The Valley Of The Shadow Of Political Correctness...🇺🇸

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Holy sheep balls you waste an inordinate amount of time tippy tapping away on these boards.

Like the mighty keyboard warrior you are!

Now have a glass of milk and try to get that stick at least an inch outside of your rectum.

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No, I'm the "other clown" (your antagonistic term) that asked you to qualify your statement. You chose not to provide said qualification, instead choosing to hop up on your little soapbox. I then asked you questions germane to your rant in terms of the movie whose board you chose to make your opinions known. All I got in return was deflection and condescension.

If you find that questions relevant to your statements are boring you, then maybe a healthy regimen of Adderall could be beneficial.


"In a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell

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No, I'm the "other clown" (your antagonistic term) that asked you to qualify your statement. You chose not to provide said qualification
You're definitely one of the clowns and I gave you as much proof as an Hollywood outsider can give. It's up to you to add two plus two. I see that's a skill that escapes you and how's that my fault?

I laid the groundwork, showing how Hollywood takes corporate dollars to feature their products on film, now how is that not providing proof? Surely you don't expect me to produce a receipt written by the marijuana industry to some movie producer...

That's exactly what you require, because you know that would be impossible for me to produce. Either the marijuana industry is paying or the entertainment powers-that-be just want to degrade our morals further. It's up to you, it's one or the other, and either way it's not good.

I don't watch movies to be influenced by others opinions, beliefs, vices or religious views. But it's obvious Hollywood has many agendas in play right now.

By the way, I didn't stomp away, I simply didn't receive a notification about your reply. Someone drew my attention back to this thread or I wouldn't know about your silliness even now.


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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3397754/board/nest/248567094?d=249295081#249295081


"In a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell

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