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Ethan Hawke as new Jigsaw

posted 8 years ago by Hasek
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We know he has a history with the Spierigs, and likes doing genre films. Anyone who's seen him in a LLinlater flick knows he a.)loves waxing about the meaning of existence, b.)is a great actor, and c.)smokes enough to have a great ragged voice, modulated or not. He could even appear on camera, he wouldn't need to hide himself. Been there, done that. Do a more philosophical entry in the series. If the Spierigs are anything, they're unconventionally imaginative. Got a good feeling about this one.

[–] Jigsaw_Expert 8 years ago

That would be amazing. Even though he has a history with the Spierg brothers I cant see him agreeing to be in an eighth Saw film. That's the funny thing about Ethan Hawke, he'll do pretentious stuff like Boyhood, genuinely good movies like Training Day, Dead Poet's Society, Before Trilogy, Gattaca, then fun "low brow" stuff along the lines of The Purge, Daybreakers, Sinister and then sometimes just plain shít like the one with Selena Gomez, Getaway I think it was called?

Even then an eighth Saw film just seems to be a whole other level, I just cant see Hawke ever doing this, as much as I would love to see him in it. Then again, Lionsgate somehow managed to get the Spierg brothers on this project, which is equally as shocking. Considering this is supposed to start filming this month, it's weird Lionsgate haven't released any cast announcements yet, did they just hire a bunch of nobodies that aren't worth mentioning or are they really trying to keep it under wraps?

[–] town_night 8 years ago

Sinister was a genuine good movie though.

[–] Jigsaw_Expert 8 years ago

I loved the first half and unironically think it could've gone down as a classic if the second half of the movie was as good as the first half. It turned to dog shít when it entered the supernatural realm and revealed the killer was an ancient Babylon demon named Baghul who eats the souls of children. Shame since they had a genius set up, a genuinely compelling murder mystery and then they piss it all away so they can turn it into a generic teeny bopper horror movie.

First half was perfectly fine but then the second half was when it turned into schlock.

[–] HDDeer 8 years ago

Im curious to know.. what would you have rathered been the antagonist in sinister? Serial killers? Monsters?

[–] Jigsaw_Expert 8 years ago

Would rather the villain just be a normal human being. Obviously it raises the question of how can this person be killing people for so long if the timeline goes so far back but that would be part of the mystery. Could've been a killer with an accomplice, a copycat killer or my preferred choice would be a cult.

I don't really have that much of a problem with the fact it took a supernatural turn, my problem is the supernatural angle was handled very poorly. Like I alluded to, the scene of Ethan on the Skype call to the professor, laughable, did Uwe Boll take over the script from this point or something? And those ghost children were the final straw. Just awful. I seem to be one of the few people who like Baghul's look which easily could've remained in the movie as a mask that the leader of the cult wears.

[–] therefdotcom 8 years ago

yeah, supernatural was the way to go, but turning the guitarist from slipknot into the antagonist was pure crap.

also, i loved the clip of the tree hanging people and was very disappointed, when they showed the "full-story-version" of the same clip later in the film. very disappointing indeed.

[–] c-smith1998-674-87100 8 years ago

You make good points but there shouldn't be another Jigsaw. The new Saw should be a direct continuation with Jigsaw living in flashbacks played by no one else but Tobin Bell.