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OT: Anyone else just wish mankind had died out before we were born?


After 3.4 million years of Stone Age + about 6,000 years of non-Stone Age look at us, we're The Planet of the Idiots!

We feed our kids the white lies of civilization. The myths. The imaginary things the adults pretend are not imaginary.

There's the myth of "importance" (aka "imperative"). Yet reality is nothing about organic life or about the universe itself is "imperative". There is nothing of "importance" to achieve or avoid. We do what we do but in the end we might as well have not have, the universe had no preference.

There's the myth of "necessity" (aka "need"). Your parents told you you have "needs". But you don't. None of us do. The desire to avoid death does not create a "need" for oxygen. The desire to walk on legs does not create a "need" for legs.

There's the myth of "should". That you "ought" to do something before you die. Reality is there isn't anything you "should" do under any circumstances. Reality is you do what you and the universe will never care about you.

There's the myth of "must" (aka "have to"). That you "must" do something before you die. Reality is there isn't anything you "have to" do no matter what the circumstances are. Reality is you do what you and the universe will never care about you.

There's the myth of "justification". Reality is an organism can't even "justify" breathing the atmosphere.

There's the myth of "laws" and "crimes", "theft" and "murder" (aka "unsanctioned killing"). Making up rules is useful but they're still as made up as the rules for playing chess.

There's the myth of "morally right and morally wrong" where they mix up good and evil with accuracy for you. Reality is the universe doesn't care how evil we are, it isn't checking our behaviour to a script to see if we're reading our lines as stated or comparing our test scores to a card it had in its pocket.
Rape isn't inaccurate and 1+1=6.4 is not evil, morons.

There's the myth of "property" (aka "ownership"). Reality is none of us even "owns" the brain matter we think with.

There's the myth of "deserving". Reality is no one ever "deserved" anything they got and no one ever will.

There's the myth of "owing". Reality is no one "owes" anyone or anyone anything.

There's the myth of "duty" and "responsibility". Reality is a mother has no more "duty" or "responsibility" to take care of her newborn offspring than she has to leave it in a dumpster to die.

There's the myth of "purpose". Reality is a carpenter can't give a chair he's making a "purpose". Anybody can come along and use the chair for whatever they want.

There's the myth of "value" (aka "worth"). Reality is a single atom of oxygen or gold holds the same amount of "value" as a planet-size chunk of oxygen or gold; absolute zero, which is the exact same amount of "value" it held long before organic life came along.

There's the myth of "perfection and imperfection". We often hear no one is "perfect" and it happens to be true but it's true because reality is no one is "imperfect".

There's the myth of "nations". Reality is they're no more real than they were when the landmasses were like one big continent populated by dinosaurs or whatever.

There's the myth of "money" and "the economy" while reality is that's a load of complete horse manure.

All your cultures and all your religions are offensive to me and I wish our ancestors had all died so all seven billion of us now living were never born.

Also, this: http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000130/nest/263626706

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If life is so bad for you, why not just leave?

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If life is so bad for you, why not just leave?

I've been suicidal since 1997. There is no "why". How come I don't off myself? I take it day by day because maybe tomorrow will be different and mankind will look less repulsive. 20 years later I'm stil waiting.

Also, this: http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000130/nest/263626706

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Well, just because you label something a "myth" doesn't make it so. Most of these constructs weren't invented by some pot-smoking hippies sitting around re-runs of "A Hard Day's Night", they evolved for the survival of this very frail and defenseless species.

Your time line is way off, by about 300%.

Your utter dismissal of all abstract concepts is cute but is another myth. However, reading this guy's books makes you feel you can say "smart" things, so go for it.

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Well, just because you label something a "myth" doesn't make it so.

True although I do state how I come to conclude them to be myths.

Most of these constructs weren't invented by some pot-smoking hippies sitting around re-runs of "A Hard Day's Night", they evolved for the survival of this very frail and defenseless species.

True but that does not make them non-fictional i.e. not imaginary i.e. real.

Your time line is way off, by about 300%.

How so?

Your utter dismissal of all abstract concepts is cute but is another myth.

I'm not dismissing all concepts as fictions, just the ones claimed to be more than concepts (i.e. claimed to exist outside the conceptual realm).

Concepts, abstract or otherwise, are neither fictional or non-fictional (e.g. the concept of a Kryptonian is no different from the concept of an electric toothbrush).


However, reading this guy's books makes you feel you can say "smart" things, so go for it.

What books?

Also, this: http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000130/nest/263626706

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"OT: Anyone else just wish mankind had died out before we were born?"

no, I'm so grateful for being born...

If you really look at the odds of being born, The absolute 1 and Gazillion chance of You being created....you can be nothing but grateful.

especially to be Human....out of all the species,just to be a human is the JACKPOT of all jackpots.

I am extremely grateful for my Hopefully 70 + years vacation from Nothingness.

I've done a truly countless amount of time thinking about Life and unfortunately DEATH....Dying is literally my biggest fear and thing I dread most.

and the reason I fear it most is because I've came to the inescapable conclusion that there is nothing after death. The second we die, its like we never existed, well never know we died, we'll never know we ever lived, Every single thing we have learned, every person we ever knew, Will be gone the second we die....and it will be like that for eternity, and eternity is absolutely horrifying to even contemplate, actually IMO I'm not sure anyone can grasp the Idea of Eternity and the horror is it.

This universe and time was here for 14 Billion years before we were born, try for a second to imagine 1,000 years, Now 100,000 years, now 10 Million years....try to honestly imagine just how long that is....and we didn't even recognize a second of it, ....14 Billion years literally past in the blink of an eye before we were born and we never even knew or recognize it....that is NOTHINGNESS, that is DEATH..

We were dead before we were born, the second we Die, we go back to the exact same thing...absolute eternal NOTHINGNESS....

life is literally nothing but a hopeful 70+ year vacation from The horrors of eternal NOTHINGNESS.

If I had one wish in life, It would be to be able to truly believe in God or an afterlife....unfortunately I can't.

I would truly rather spend Eternity In HELL, than face what I am certain is coming in Eternal NOTHINGNESS



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