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Do not fall for disinformation

posted 8 years ago by Bridgettedweller
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Satanic ritual abuse is not a myth but this movie paints all the victims in real life as liars. Do some research on multiple personality disorder and MK Ultra...this abuse totally *beep* up peoples minds and because people in your own government do it to little kids they are now trying to hide it with movies like these. They cover it up by claiming mass hysteria or false memory syndrome and in this case they blame regression therapy. Stay awake do not let them pull wool over your eyes sheeple remember the time they claimed that snuff movies were a myth? remember that time they told us cigarettes are healthy for us? Do your research.

[–] R_Redbeard 8 years ago

*beep* off and die.

“Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance."

[–] Bridgettedweller 8 years ago

What is your problem? You an offended pedo?

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[–] urbanangel-24653 8 years ago

I know. I've read up on a lot of things. MK Ultra was messed up. There was one experiment where they raped men,women,kids & babies.The wrote down when each would orgasm. It's highly messed up but the research was backed by Hugh Hefner in defence of porn mags and used at rape trials I.e. if the person orgasms they enjoyed it . Completely messed up.I can't remember the name now though of that experiment. I know books have been published though about it and movies made.

[–] Bridgettedweller 8 years ago

Holy *beep* how disturbing is it on 1-10 scale?

[–] urbanangel-24653 8 years ago

Ah it was The Kinsey report /Kinsey experiment.

[–] werecow2003 8 years ago

False memories are a very real phenomenon, as has been shown by multiple studies (by, for example, Elizabeth Loftus). Unlike satanic ritual abuse, these phenomena have actually been demonstrated to exist.

People with false memories are not (necessarily) liars, but have simply fallen prey to the power of suggestion, and the fact that the brain is easily confused, and actively constructs most of what we think of as our perceptions of reality. If anyone is to be blamed, it's those therapists that thought that regression therapy was a good idea either before the clinical evidence was in, or sometimes even long after the evidence had started to point the other way. Other than that, it's just a really tragic outcome of our ability to deceive ourselves and others.

Bringing up MK-ULTRA in this topic is simply conspiracy mongering. You might as well have brought up the moon landing, area 51, the JFK assassination, and 9/11.

I recommend reading the skepdic pages on false memories (http://skepdic.com/falsememory.html) and regression therapy (http://skepdic.com/repress.html) as primers on the subject.

[–] Bridgettedweller 8 years ago

Does it make you warm and fuzzy inside to tell yourself that these things do not exist? or are you just a little shill? That puny website is your evidence? MK-Ultra is extremely well documented and the CIA did admit to it, hell people even won court cases against the government and were paid out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

http://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/cia-mkultra-collection/

https://www.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/13inmate_ProjectMKULTRA.pdf

https://ritualabuse.us/mindcontrol/mc-documents-links/mk-ultra-links-torture-based-government-sponsored-mind-control-experimentation-on-children/

I can link you all day buddy.

How can you still call it a conspiracy? all the info is out there.

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[–] kay_rock 8 years ago

Well thank goodness for those links. If it's on the internet it must be true.

Movies are IQ tests; the IMDB boards are how people broadcast their score.

[–] Bridgettedweller 8 years ago

I guess everything on the internet is a lie then? And the court cases that I have watched is all staged...bet you believe in the bible though.
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[–] kay_rock 8 years ago

Well, the bible is sold in bookstores everywhere, and can be found in most hotel bedside tables, so yeah, I think it's safe to assume it exists. I believe in it. Do I think it's a special message from a magical skygod who is fighting the snakegod for eternal possession of my "soul?" Yeah, um, likely not. Although there are lots of sites on the Internet which insist that's true, so by your logic I should probably learn a few prayers and take my firstborn up a mountain to slit his throat to prove my loyalty.

I'll get right on that.

Movies are IQ tests; the IMDB boards are how people broadcast their score.

[–] werecow2003 8 years ago

Does it make you warm and fuzzy inside to tell yourself that these things do not exist? or are you just a little shill?

Yes, you got me, I'm a shill. The CIA is paying me to go around IMDB message boards responding to posts by you, the One Who Has Seen The Truth.

That puny website is your evidence?

No, it's a website that specializes in pseudoscience. Like I said, it's a short introduction to the subjects of false memories and regression therapy. It does, however, refer to several studies in the scientific literature, in case you want to deepen your understanding of the subject.

MK-Ultra is extremely well documented and the CIA did admit to it, hell people even won court cases against the government and were paid out.

Nobody said MK-ULTRA did not exist. However, it was discontinued in 1973, and, the ravings of a few paranoid individuals notwithstanding, unlike with regression therapy, there is no actual scientific evidence linking it to the satanic cults craze that has held up under even cursory scrutiny, so I'm not sure why you keep bringing it up.

I'm totally on board with the title of your OP though. Take your own advice.

[–] WDformerWB 8 years ago

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[–] KubrickScorseseDePalma 8 years ago

Who told you it ended in 73? The govt or military? So easily fooled. Sheep.

[–] Mr_Ectoplasma 8 years ago

Does it make you warm and fuzzy inside to tell yourself that these things do not exist? or are you just a little shill? That puny website is your evidence? MK-Ultra is extremely well documented and the CIA did admit to it, hell people even won court cases against the government and were paid out.

And what exactly does MK-Ultra have to do with Satanism as it's presented in this movie?

Emma Watson's character is a teenager who has been raised by Evangelical radicals who have been drilling mythology and fear of the devil into her since she was cognizant of herself—that's a breeding ground for religious hysteria and an irrational paranoia about "Satan." That kind of paranoia is easily spread among likeminded people—kind of like, well, your apparent paranoia about this movie discrediting the source of your paranoia.

Your argument that this movie is propagating some narrative that "all cults are fake" is weak and futile. You're beating a dead horse.

[–] hislop100 8 years ago

Are you sure it isn't Aliens or the men in black? You lunatic.

[–] Dragonsouls 8 years ago

The point of the movie is that "The lies and delusions are part of something bigger." Like Ethan Hawke's character said in the film. We don't know everything and so people make up stuff to make sense of all the secret stuff that goes on.

[–] draftdubya 7 years ago

I'm enjoying this thread