Torture scene dumb mistake
They only covered her mouth with the rag when they started pouring down water. So she could easily breathe out her nose.
Youre supposed to cover her whole face.
u should try it, see if you can :p
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johnnymike91 wrote:
They only covered her mouth with the rag when they started pouring down water. So she could easily breathe out her nose.0-dark-30 showed waterboarding, but it too was toned down, and not nearly as revolting as waterboarding is in real life. Not covering her nose may have been a conscious decision, to avoid alienating the audience.
Youre supposed to cover her whole face.
I am surprised at how the POTUS is portrayed: (1) cynical; (2) stupid; (3) short-sighted; (4) amoral. He has no redeeming qualities. Mind you Dubya may have been this stupid, this amoral. But Michael Moore was the only one who had the courage to show it.
If the series isn't cancelled I predict the POTUS will be assassinated, or otherwise replaced. His totally unredeemed character is perhaps so the ineffectual advisor lady doesn't have to side with him. share
Funny, I thought they portrayed POTUS exactly right. Obama, who just FYI, has been POTUS for five and a half years. I did a double take when you referenced POTUS as GWB. He had more integrity, intelligence, honesty, and ability to run this country than Obama could hope for. But, hey, nice try! As for my two cents, I thought they had POTUS down pat!
shareI did a double take when you referenced POTUS as GWB. He had more integrity, intelligence, honesty, and ability to run this country than Obama could hope for.Thanks. I needed a good laugh. share
One sees what one wants to see. It goes both ways. You could be right...or wrong, same with the other post. C'est la vie!
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People seem to think that waterboarding is just about getting water in someone's nose and mouth so they can't breathe. But it would be a lot easier to just stuff their head in a bucket full of water, and you lose a lot less of it. With waterboarding, you have to keep getting more water, from somewhere.
It's all about the feel of drowning. It's gotta go on the whole face. I'm not saying it isn't torture what the character went through; just totally unbelievable that a vile creature like the antagonist wouldn't know how to torture someone properly.
Yes, it's about the feeling of drowning, but the way it works is that the victim is forced to breathe through a wet piece of cloth. As the air passes through the cloth, some of the water is inhaled along with it and produces an effect similar to when you're drinking something and some of it accidentally goes down your windpipe. When that happens, you instantly start coughing and feel like you're choking.
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It's all about the feel of drowning. It's gotta go on the whole face. I'm not saying it isn't torture what the character went through; just totally unbelievable that a vile creature like the antagonist wouldn't know how to torture someone properly.US Special Forces types go through something called SERE training, where they get to briefly experience water-boarding. This is how they knew how to torture their captives in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Most press accounts of water-boarding mis-lead their readers by saying that waterboarding is a "simulation" of death-by-drowning, or, as you said, it provides the feeling of drowning.
I think it is more accurate to say that the waterboarded individual experiences the first stages of drowning. Although we didn't hear of it happening to any US captives, I believe someone subjected to an enthusiastic use of waterboarding can really drown.
Covering the mouth and the nose is sufficient -- or covering the mouth, and pinching the subject's nose. Pouring water on the rag, to keep it sopping wet, means that every attempt to breathe slowly fills the subject's lungs with more water.
As I wrote above, people being waterboarded don't feel like they are drowning. They are drowning.
Journalist Scott Horton wrote that the first three captives known to have died at Guantanamo did not commit suicide -- that the suicide story was a cover-up, and that they were subjected to technique related to waterboarding, called "dryboarding" -- where asphyxiation is induced by stuffing rags down the subjects throat. Horton wrote that three of the individuals tortured using this technique died because the rags couldn't be removed quickly enough. share
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