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Government worshippers should love this

posted 9 years ago by RussMeyer1
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Dumbasses who think that gov't always does right, always protects the interests of the individual will drool over this.

Encrypted? Hell yeah, so that gov't can't blackmail political dissent.

Decentralized? Hell yeah, b/c central planning simply does not work. See Soviets.

Dangerous? Idiots. How can a frigging hard disk miles away, with data on it, be dangerous???

Beyond the law? Hell yeah, who says the laws are serving the interests of the individual and not of the gov't itself?

Screw you, government worshippers, you are embeciles.

[–] verycoolnin 9 years ago

Have you seen it?

[–] MWallace77 9 years ago

I'm confused...are you saying it's pro government? I haven't seen it and I guess it will be over my head.

[–] sinsemilla420071 9 years ago

No, it actually leans very anti-government and anti-centralization. I have no clue what this guy is rambling about.

[–] aliencat 8 years ago

THIS POST CONTAINS SPOILERS.

I strongly disagree that government worshippers would love this documentary. I just saw the movie and I would think this would infuriate those who defend the government's actions no matter what -- or, at the very least, make them question their loyalty somewhat. It documents that an agent gave highly questionable (and possibly false) testimony on how the servers were located and also makes a strong case that the government violated the fourth amendment (prohibition of unreasonable search and seizure) and did not give Ulbricht a fair trial. Moreover, two of the investigating agents stole money from Silk Road while investigating it. (This was verified after Ulbricht's trial and both agents were sent to prison.) There is an interview with a police chief who gives an interesting perspective on online drug dealing and the documentary also points out how the war on drugs has been a hugely expensive failure, in terms of money and lives (of police officers) lost. I consider myself to be pretty conservative and I was appalled.

[–] askoz 8 years ago

Despite the circumstances I'm pretty convinced that Ross is guilty of all the charges. The evidence against him is insurmountable.
It's not the first time an agent has tried to skim the top off of a bag of money or drugs found at a crime scene. That doesn't make the original criminal any less guilty.
Regarding how the server was located: according to the Wired article (link below), DPR received messages from several people claiming that the Silk Road server was leaking its IP address (I don't think that was made clear in the documentary) through a misconfiguration. The server exposed some of its content on the so called "visible web". If regular people could find that out, then so could the FBI without involving illegal surveillance which would break the 4th amendment.
Even so, his sentence is utterly ridiculous. Life in prison for essentially providing an escrow between two other parties committing a crime. I was actually confused the first time I read that. I thought I must have misread or misunderstood something fundamental about the case, but I hadn't. They didn't even bring up the alleged contract killings during the trial. Those are the most serious charges, but no one was actually murdered. Cold-blooded murderers don't get life in prison FFS!

All that being said, I don't know what really went down (obviously). I'm basing all of this on the documentary and the Wired article.
https://www.wired.com/2015/04/silk-road-1/

[–] MWallace77 9 years ago

I'm confused...are you saying it's pro government? I haven't seen it and I guess it will be over my head.

[–] yojimboy 9 years ago

You are incoherent.

[–] baconbit 8 years ago

You know..people like you who are LITERALLY less than worthless to society (a burden..as in the day of your suicide is the day the world is a better place for everyone else on it) who refuse to accept responsibility for their complete failure of a life and instead blame it on a giant conspiracy designed to keep them down.

[–] RussMeyer1 8 years ago

Go away, troll.