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Had to turn it off.

posted 9 years ago by zaltman_bleros
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Not the lights or the shower, I had to turn off the movie. It felt like it was made by a vegan sponsored by oil companies, if that even makes sense.

It always comes down to the same conclusion. Humans are bad, yes we're bad, politicians are crooks and so on. Give me a break. The guy rides his bycicle made by a machine built by men that ate beef which had so many gallons of water. I don't know do they expect us to be vegans and let the animals roam free on the freeways and cities?

So I did best thing I could do. I switched off the movie and have no intention of finishing it.

[–] k-man-20 9 years ago

do they expect us to be vegans

Why not? You don't think vegans can build bicycles? I really have no idea what your point is.

[–] alloneword950-948-598356 9 years ago

I think the OPs point was he didn't want to consider that the information being communicated in the film is something that he, along with everyone else, really needs to think about. Otherwise he might have to do something about it. Although in this case it's quite easy. You don't have to DO anything. You need to STOP doing something, which is consuming large amounts of meat and dairy, because it's unsustainable. It's only the planet we live on that's at stake. But the OP couldn't even get through the documentary without sticking their head in the sand, and turned it off. Don't worry OP, I'm sure in the act of doing that you've probably demonstrated an interesting point about the general attitudes of the majority of the human race.

[–] melinda2001 9 years ago

The OP did less than nothing because he didn't just turn the movie off, he then came here to spread the idea that it's dumb to care about sustainability. That's how committed he is to his addiction.

I will point out that there's still something we can do that's just as important as changing the world's diet, and that's having fewer children than we otherwise would have liked to. Just having one fewer (or adopting one!) will earn you my permission to live large in a bunch of ways because you've just removed the footprint for an entire person, and all of their descendants!

[–] southpaw734 9 years ago

Why haven't you killed yourself yet? Forget hypothetical people who haven't born. You're real right now. What do you think of war and genocide? Plenty of people getting wiped off the planet there.

Also, I'd liked to point out that the planet isn't going anywhere. It is far more than just the surface we organisms live on. It is human arrogance to think we are so important. The impacts that earth has endured make the stuff humans do look like shooting firecrackers at tanks.

[–] melinda2001 9 years ago

Attrition through suicide or genocide is not my idea of sustainability. We can eliminate hunger, war, and grave injustices if we choose. What I don't understand are people who don't want to achieve these things.

You're right that the Earth doesn't care squat about humans, but that's also missing the point. Humans care about humans. Some of them anyway.

[–] OscarLocalman 9 years ago

@melinda2001 thanks for making so much sense.

[–] The_Blu_Ray_Penguin 9 years ago

People like the OP are precisely why docus like this and our planet in general are doomed to failure. It has become human nature to be so desensitized to the realitiea around us that we can't be bothered to do away with a luxury or two until it is in crisis form. So until the planet is out of fish, water is near draught all over and bread costs 700 dollars a loaf nobody will do *beep* to do thier part. The reality is fact for one thing, only a few dozen hamburger packages equals an acre of rainforest GONE. This is verifiable info. But nobody cares because we dont see the destruction firsthand, and again humans are so detached amd desensitized that it doesnt connect. This threat is real though. Forget coal/fracking/fossil fuels etc. Amimal agriculture and overfishing the oceans are easily the biggest threat to our planets health and are also the most fixable of the bigger issues. If most people even cut down 50% of thier meat and fish consumption it would make huge impacts. But it isnt going to happen. It is only going to get worse until we are either doomed or almost there. Not negativity just reality. Barring some human only plague wiping out half or more of us anyway...

[–] OscarLocalman 9 years ago

hear hear. a friend reminded me of a dude who tried to make his own hamburger from scratch. it cost him $1500. Michael Pollan did a similar experiment which he wrote about in Omnivore's Dilemma-- a meal from scratch for his friends took extraordinary efforts on his part. the status quo has made it easy to ignore the actual costs of our habits and addictions. but I guess we can't outwit nature?

[–] NewportBox100 9 years ago

This film really opened my eyes. I'm glad I watched it... and yes I broke down to tears in a few scenes.

[–] OscarLocalman 9 years ago

you didn't do the best thing you could do.

you did the easiest.

[–] Nemesis42 9 years ago

You choose to keep your head in the sand.

[–] organicnegation 9 years ago

Really, the best argument you have against veganism is the fact that the people who built the *beep* bikes are probably not vegan? That's like me saying that someone's house was built by a violent wife beater and rapist, therefore we necessarily need violent rapists in society. What's next? Vegans support school shootings because of Adam Lanza's diet choices? Oh, let's not forget about the "Hitler was a vegetarian", that one's great too!

It's quite clear that you shouldn't have strayed away from your mindless entertainment and started a documentary that requires you to think and take responsibility for your actions. Enjoy your life with your head in the sand.

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[–] cineastFGD 8 years ago

By this account every species on the planet is bad, because every species will behave like this if you let them. Take the natural predators away in a forest and watch the deers multiply happily and destroy entire forests, the very habitat that sustains them. Bring rabits into Australia and watch them eat every bit of green around them.
We humans are not so much different, like every species on the planet we are greedy and lazy. We have to, it's a pedicament for survival. The problem with us is that we have become so intelligent that we are able to lever out nature's checks and balances, at least to a certain point. Whether our intelligence goes so far that we can install our own checks and balance mechanisms is another question.

[–] jamespurcell-17815 8 years ago

It's clear you didn't actually invest effort in thinking before you made your post. Expect better from yourself.