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How are the Americans "good guys" in this movie?

posted 8 years ago by amar-d90
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In the very first scenes of the movie the Americans bombed a wedding or a party, killing 100+ people to take out one guy. Now I do realize that this is a movie and I won't claim that these things happen in real life all the time, even though I am sure it has happened. Anyways if they do it in the movie once like they did I am sure that in the movie they have done it before and after.
And then they are the bad guys for wanting to take revenge? Really?

If this was a movie where the roles were switched and the terrorists planted a bomb somewhere in the US, killing 100+ people than revenge would be justified. Anything the Americans do to the government of the country responsible would be ok and justified. Hypocritical much?

Now I don't mean to make a movie like this political. It's not really suppose to be that. It's just suppose to be a fun action movie. I get that. But it's hard when you see this propaganda movie where Americans rock and the UK can't even assemble their army for some reason.

[–] poopfock 8 years ago

You might want to watch your tone or the NSA might be at your door, lol.

I don't think it's meant to be quite as black and white as you're taking it though. It seemed to me that neither were particularly shown as good/bad as the "bad" dude mentioned in the film that [the US] "started this war" or something to that degree.

But yeah, I thought it was odd that the US just straight used a drone to bomb an entire compound with innocents. They even did it again at the end. I'm pretty sure I heard in the radio chatter at the end "civilians confirmed on site" or something like that. Seems like an odd choice - maybe to show the blurred lines? I dunno.

The movie sucked, and really that's all there is to it. Regardless of who the audience deems as good/bad.

[–] Royalcourtier 8 years ago

Americans regularly murder people, and assassinate political opponents. They also kidnap people and torture prisoners. All of this is of course illegal, but in the "Land of the free" the power and corruption of the state knows no limits. The US government is guilty in real life of every crime shown in this movie. The Americans are not the good guys, they are the villains, and the USA the enemy of the free world.

[–] partydjz (424) 6 years ago

Exactly !!

[–] shanayneigh 8 years ago

Now I do realize that this is a movie and I won't claim that these things happen in real life all the time, even though I am sure it has happened.

Oh yes. Over and over and over again. Yet somehow the Americans are supposed to be the good guys. They are genocidal maniacs.

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[–] debster859 8 years ago

Americans are always the good guys in movies ive yet to see an american movie like this where they are the bad guys.

[–] BeinMysef 8 years ago

I dont think I could ever sympathize with a terrorist. Basides... Americans are always the good guys regardless. #Trump2016

[–] Bobby_vs_Satan 8 years ago

Well, it's an American made movie. Maybe if there was a decent Muslim based movie industry and they made one like this, from the other perspective we could argue about it's crappy CGI and stupid characters like we do with this crap..lol

I do like the irony that the director was born in Tehran.

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[–] thulk01 8 years ago

Because killing the 1 arms dealer at the expense of 100 innocents will save the lives of thousands of innocents who would have died as a result of him selling arms to other terrorists. Whether you agree with that logic or not, that's how it's usually seen (kill a smaller number of innocents in order to save a larger number).

It's not really that simple though and towards the end one of the terrorists says "we are all monsters" ("we" meaning Americans + terrorists). In real life there are no "good guys," everyone just tries to destroy the other side(s) and come out on top. Unless people are really, really stupid, I don't think these movies are intended as American propaganda that anyone is supposed to "fall for," I think they're just popcorn action movies who choose to set the Americans as the good guys because most people watching them will be American. If it were a limited release in Russia they'd probably set Russians as the good guys, etc.

[–] Terrapin2212 8 years ago

If you watch the beginning carefully, nobody knew an entire wedding was going on as everyone was inside the tent. The intel just said the target was at that location.

[–] repo136 8 years ago

What got me is that it took ONE guy (American) to sort out all the terrorists in the building while the whole group of SAS (Super Army Soldiers...LOL) who are Britain's elite military force just sat with their thumbs up their arses waiting for him to give the order to "press the button".

Can't have the British guys being as heroic as the US guy, can we?!

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[–] Strazdamonas 8 years ago

I suggest you pay more attention next time. The SAS team was specifically instructed to stay outside and keep the terrorists "busy" because a full frontal assault would lead to instant murder of the president while the american was to silently infiltrate the base and free the president. of course why they didnt kill the pres when the silent infiltration failed is beyond me.

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[–] kingsx_64 7 years ago

(it took ONE guy (American)
Actually,Gerard Butler is Scottish.

Frankly autocorrect, I'm getting a little tired of your shirt

[–] Ctrl-Opt-Del 7 years ago

The character is American, you disingenuous twonk... I bet you wouldn't insist that Scotty from Star Trek was Canadian or English because that's where James Doohan & Simon Pegg hail from...

[–] kingsx_64 7 years ago

Relax cupcake,, it was a joke.. A good one too,,if I might add

[–] Ctrl-Opt-Del 7 years ago

Didn't read as a joke, and even giving you the benefit of the doubt & taking your word for it, it's still not a good one...

[–] kingsx_64 7 years ago

Guess you can't please everyone all the time

[–] flyer-50463 7 years ago

If that is your best material, don't give up your daily job. You will not succeed as a comedian.