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Beautiful father and son relationship + remarks

posted 7 years ago by I_Created_U
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I didn't particularly like or dislike this movie, it started out pretty well but fell into know territory very quickly too, gave the movie a 6/10.

One thing though, that i really liked in this movie was the father and son relationship. Rarely do we get to see characters who have healthy and loving relationships with their kids/parents. More often than not, there is some dark secret or some emotional open wound that keep people apart at first, but that gets slowly resolved as the movie unfolds. I found it refreshing to see that just like in real life, there are still people out there who actually get along with their parents. All of the scenes between Cox and Hirsh clearly suggest a very intimate and loving relationship, but for some reason, i really loved the way Hirsh suddenly decides to set the witch on fire with gasoline and Cox looks deeply worried in the background but doesn't flinch one bit and simply lights some matches and throws them at the corpse. I really liked this scene for some reason.

Didn't their relationship strike you too? Wouldn't it be awesome if we were all lucky enough to have such a link with our dads/moms? Not that mine is bad at all, just saying.

Now a few questions/remarks:

Why in heck would they react so casually to the fact that the cat was obviously viciously attacked? By what or who doesn't even enter their mind! "Oh yeah the cat just exploded in the vent pipe for some reason. Yeah it happens, son." I mean, really?

How did the GF come back into the morgue when there was a tree blocking the entry? What did i miss?

I have a hard time understanding Cox's train of thought when he concludes that the witch was obviously innocent and that it's the ritual that made her into what it was supposed to cleanse. Putting aside the obvious silliness of the idea that a Christian ritual could transform someone into a witch/demon, i still don't understand the logic he just applied there. Wouldn't it make more sense to assume that she was a witch and that the ritual didn't work rather than she was an innocent and the ritual transformed her? Because the only reason he says she was innocent is because of what he has been taught in school, that all the people convicted of witchcraft were innocent simply because witchcraft doesn't exist. But in this very universe he is in, he cannot presume anymore that witches don't exist and as such, he should conclude that she is one of the or maybe the only witch from Salem and that the ritual simply didn't succeed.

Thus, the solution to their predicament should have been to perform the ritual and make it work somehow, not to take her spot and suffering for some reason.

Thoughts?

People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs

[–] whitespirit26 7 years ago

You're just freaking weird.

[–] I_Created_U 7 years ago

How dare you.

People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs

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[–] whitespirit26 7 years ago

LOL Sorry, I thought at some point you said something about the dead witch being an attractive or beautiful corpse here or elsewhere (did you, or am I recalling someone else?) Plus, your words about these two odd men being in such a loving relationship and how lighting the witch on fire was a favorite scene of yours just struck me as odd. But maybe I'm remembering someone else make that weird comment about the witch.

[–] I_Created_U 7 years ago

Ok well... errrr... guess i'm guilty as charged then because i did indeed do all the things you mentioned, if my memory serves and i am not the pathological liar i know I am.

Not sure but on another thread i might have mentioned or answered to another poster saying she was attractive - which I still think she was. So strike one.

I did indeed in this OP say the father and son have a beautiful relationship, which i also still maintain. However, i think it is only weird if i was suggesting it in a homo-erotic kinda way, which i am not. Hopefully.

In the usually 4 accepted words for love in ancient Greek, i was referencing Storge, Agape and probably also Philia, but certainly not Eros. So, is it strike 2? Because i think one should have the right to mention a beautiful father and son relationship when one sees one without looking like Satan's progeny, no? Am I too "Old Testament" or what?

As for strike 3, i did indeed say that one of my favorite moments was when they set the witch on fire, LOL, but not in a sadistic twisted kinda way, like "Burn all the virgins and eat all the baby toes during the next full moon"-kinda thing. No.

More like, "I see inherent cosmic, yet transcendental beauty in the almost Jungian way father and son proceed like one single majestic multi-dimensional mind entangled in an almost surreal symbiotic quantum state and decide metaphorically, but above all practically, to set this wretched bitch on fire".

So no, sorry, I am not weird. Slightly lethal and "stab-y" on the edges when awake, yes, but not weird. Ok, I do also listen to compilations of animals at the slaughterhouse for almost no sexual purposes, yes, but that's got zero to do with anything so don't even mention it ok? Jesus.

Weird? ME? How dare you. YOU are weird ok?? Now get out of here before i tongue-kiss you where nobody should ever be tongue-kissed! *psst: in the forest*

People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs

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[–] LadyRobynSnow 7 years ago

There wasn't really a tree blocking the way because there was no storm. On the radio after the sherrif enters the morgue, the news stated it was the 4th day of clear skies and sunshine they were having. It was just the witch all along

[–] ratonu13 7 years ago

I thought the same thing about their relationship and also liked the scene where they set her on fire. And yeah, being a guy that gets along well with his dad myself, I could really get into this film if it weren't filled with repetitive jump scares, same old s**t timing and an unsatisfying end to our characters.

[–] AtomicReturns (1252) 7 years ago

I thought the dialogue between them was nice and would've liked to see more. The elevator scene where the father talks about the wife who passed away was good, and Brian Cox is a good actor that makes scenes like that work.

The movie itself was okay. I can see why ppl are mentioning it a lot. It's a very unique setting and plot for a horror film.
50% of it was cool and very different, but the other 50% became generic jump scares and supernatural silliness. What would make it more terrifying is not adding more jump scares, but creating more believable circumstances and characters. Although I praised the father/son relationship, it could still be better sketched out. I would like to have seen more fierce debates of faith vs. science raging in their minds, and a real struggle to grasp what they're dealing with.