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This movie actually represents something huge


We're almost there guys. The day being gay is so normalized that we can have generic box office fillers about gay people is the day we've won the fight. Now, this one doesn't quite count because it's specifically about controversy over being gay but still, we're close. Thanks Katherine.

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Update: even better, She Keeps Me Warm by Mary Lambert is officially in the soundtrack.

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This reminds me of the Chris Rock joke about how Jackie Robinson was not really the mark of progress because he was one of the greats of all time, but that the first bad black baseball player in the major leagues would have really been the mark of equality.

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Wait, on a serious note for a moment, it always makes me giggle when I hear of gay Christians. I mean, the comedy contained therein is extreme.

Maybe so, but the joke is on Christianity, not on gay people. A gay Christian may be a joke, but a gay person who follows the teachings of Jesus is something entirely normal, even beautiful. Christianity has strayed so far away from the teachings of Jesus, that seeing love can make a Christian giggle. In my opinion, it is Saul who is to blame, the poor bugger never even met Jesus, and had this huge guilt feeling, the size of the Empire State building. Billions now have to suffer, because he persecuted Christians before, allegedly, seeing the Light.

Anyone who loves their brother and sister lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble.

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The day we'll be there is when gay people will stop being so desperate to flaunt their gayness in pride-parades and push for it in movies.

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Lol as long as the people like you are waiting for "flaunting their gayness" to stop its not going to

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Come on... Straight people don't have parades. It's nothing special to be straight, gay or whatever. It is what it is. You are what you are. There's no need for gay pride at all but, then again, why shouldn't there be gay pride!? Either way life goes on.

P.s. Imagine if there were STRAIGHT PRIDE parades. OMG!

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Do you know what soufragettes were? Well, gay parades are something similar to soufragette demonstrations. When gay people living the same lives as heterosexual people, them having the same opportunities, choices and protections will be as normal for us as women being able to vote, then it will be time to stop gay parades. Well, when gay people will be able to get MARRIED in a CHURCH, then it will be time to stop gay parades!

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I never understood that. I claim no denomination but as much as I see gay people bash the church and what it stands for they are always eager to get married in a church. Everybody wants to preach tolerance, well doesn't that also mean tolerance for what others believe? Regardless if you agree with it or not you should let that person believe what they want and respect it. Its like going into a Muslim restaurant and demanding porkchops (not the est example I know but you catch my drift). I understand getting married but I think the LBGT community need to understand you cant always have your cake and eat it too.

There are nearly thirteen million people in the world. None of those people is an extra.

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Well, when gay people will be able to get MARRIED in a CHURCH, then it will be time to stop gay parades!


I fully support gay marriage - actually I'm a firm believer that it shouldn't be called "gay marriage" it should simply be called marriage.

But I must say, while you can't have people make laws based purely on personal beliefs/faith, you also can't force a religious group to change the doctrines of their faith. Separation of church and state goes both ways.

If you want to get married in a church find one that welcomes you with open arms.

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i'm not christian and i may be wrong but from what i know is that bible does not support gays, so to gay people to whom is important to get married in the church why this should be your place of worship, if the church belongs to jesus and the jesus is against the gay marriage, is it right to think that maybe jesus isn't the one who should be witnessing your marriage. all i'm trying to say is that if you are getting married you don't need a religious house to do that, i believe you're smart enough to understand that religion is just a way to control the masses....you can build your own worship place where none would judge or tell if ur allowed to marry there or not.

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Seriously, marriage is an antiquated construct that no one should participate in. Religion is the exact same antiquated construct. Having special laws for marriage or religion is the biggest load of BS to come down the pike ever. A new Constitution that isn't written by rich, white, male land-owners would solve many problems. Btw, I'm a white male but not a rich land-owner. I find the lack of progress in my 53 years on this rock utterly ridiculous.

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^THIS

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The day we'll be there is when gay people will stop being so desperate to flaunt their gayness in pride-parades and push for it in movies.


Be where, exactly? Back in the 50s where everybody hid who they were so they wouldn't offend delicate people who want the world to be filled with white men and their submissive wives?

Do you even know how awful you sound? Do you care? Were your parents part of the group that was disgusted by interracial marriage? Do you still secretly think they're right? Maybe not so secretly?

Do you like the things you believe in, really? Do you sense maybe you could crack open your heart just a little bit and maybe find you are a happier person for it?

And most urgently - do you subconsciously come and post things like this in public because you actually want to be called out on it? Are you looking for an impetus for change? Because the world would welcome you if you'd like to join it.




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No, it's because I honestly don't give a crap if someone is gay or straight. I would react exactly the same way to straight people pushing their particular sexuality fetishes in my face.

Don't be so quick to feel offended and victimized and read stuff into my words that I've never implied. It's just that gay pride parades are more a matter of showing off as much asschaps and skirting indecency laws as close as possible rather than any real statement about gay rights and acceptance. Real equality will be when gay people realize they don't have to try to set themselves apart from society as they're a part of it.

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So, gay people and all other minorities are so insecure in who they are, they need special days, special months, special parades to celebrate who they are? That's just sad.

These SJW need to get this through their fcking heads: YOU WILL NEVER MAKE EVERYONE THINK EXACTLY LIKE YOU and to be honest, you are very wrong to try. There are always a$$holes. I'm a white male. I'm getting really used to hearing how evil in nature my race and gender is. Do you think a growing white boy should be forced to hear how evil they are for the crimes of old?? For the overindulged, oversensitive feelings of insecure minorities??

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Right?? I have no problem with somebody who is proud of who they are, not what they "choose to do", no matter how disgusting it is... I think Andrew Dice Clay said it best 30 years ago!!

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I think you may be right. I keep reading that the movie is "too late" and I don't see why. It's right on time. Regardless of the its flaws or even whether it's a great movie, it's a mainstream movie and it's not filled with hatred. Nobody gets beaten up and nobody sues anyone.

Now, this one doesn't quite count because it's specifically about controversy over being gay but still, we're close.

I don't know if it's about the controversy. Neither of her parents are homophobes. They're more concerned about the gossip and how it will affect their lives in their community. In fact, you could have pretty much the same movie if she was marrying a Jewish guy. It's more about tradition being disrupted than it is about homosexuality or homophobia.

That's what I liked about it. Nobody, not even the gossipy neighbors, is a raging homophobe. There are various degrees of "I don't get it" but that's not the same thing.

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

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I don't know if it's about the controversy. Neither of her parents are homophobes. They're more concerned about the gossip and how it will affect their lives in their community. In fact, you could have pretty much the same movie if she was marrying a Jewish guy. It's more about tradition being disrupted than it is about homosexuality or homophobia.


I haven't seen the movie yet so I don't know if the parents are actually homophobes or not. But I hope you're not conflating same-sex marriage or with inter-racial or inter-faith marriage. Because to do so would be to compare apples and oranges. Sorry, but they're simply are not the same thing.

That's what I liked about it. Nobody, not even the gossipy neighbors, is a raging homophobe. There are various degrees of "I don't get it" but that's not the same thing.


True, people who "don't get it" is not same being raging a homophobe.

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For some of us that day was a long time ago. This movie will be conventional and as forgettable as most modern romantic comedies.


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Eckk.... gays have TOO much film and television on there side already. I'm not against homosexuals, and am not homophobic... but something that really irritates me is that campy loud gay accent. Which is something that a lot of actual gay people don't even sound like... right? I think. No gay person I know speaks like that anyway. But it's over done in EVERY Hollywood movie. It's just annoying and off putting.

Anyway.... to answer the title of this thread, "This movie represents something huge"... is it that this is the 100th movie in a row Kathrine is playing the same character... you know, a bride or soon to be one? Does her contact state she cannot take on any other type of role?

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Anyway.... to answer the title of this thread, "This movie represents something huge"... is it that this is the 100th movie in a row Kathrine is playing the same character... you know, a bride or soon to be one? Does her contact state she cannot take on any other type of role?


I think that was sort of the OP's point, though. The movie represents something huge, because it isn't really huge at all. It's not trying to be Brokeback Mountain or The Kids Are Alright or Philadelphia or Boys Don't Cry. It's just going to be another terrible Katherine Heigl movie that will most likely be forgotten in a few months.

The point is that we've reached a point in history where, because not being straight is so much more normalized, films of various genres can feature gay protagonists whose plots do not solely revolve around their sexuality, and whose conflicts are not a direct result of them being gay.

I definitely didn't articulate that as well as I was hoping, but do you get the gist?

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It will always be an issue as long as the characters must declare 'This is my identity... this is what I DO.' So, yeah, it will always be an issue.

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Are you forgetting the cow boy film?

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Imagine You and Me was a pretty generic lesbian rom com and there was some HOT chemistry between Piper Perabo and Lena Heady unlike this movie which looking at the trailer the two leads have NO chemistry what so ever and don't kiss once in the trailer. This looks like a terrible dud, feel kinda bad for Katherine even though I never liked her, she went from near A-list to this kind of crap (not saying that because it's a gay movie, it just looks awful).

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