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So the show's big problem ...

posted 8 years ago by sincro1990
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Too much plotholes :( Like, really: too much.

During highschool i was asigned to write a cool history: i had a great "big" plot and good subplots too ... but as I was writing i realice how hard is keeping the good writing since every little action needed a motivation and, of course, a logical response to it from the ALL the characters: ALL the time ... thats what i feels so wrong with Zoo and whats hurts it because the principal idea behind is -i dont know if good, but at least- original! THE SHOW HAS SUCH A BAD WRITING!
There was moments in my writing in what i thought "now i need the character to run this way so she can find her frien... waaaait: she cant do that since she is clinically afraid of the dark .. but ... but ... i reaaally need her to do that so the plot can advance ... okay! then she find a flashlight in the street... wait ... thats unlikely ; okay , but even if it happens what still has batteries? it shouldnt be broken at least? who leaves one item in a middle of a apocalipse? should be something dangerous around?" and a simple act against nature now trasforms in something complicated just because we forced something. I tried to fill my holes ( pun intended xD ), Zoo doesnt even try.

I wont enlist every flaw ( was going to say "little flaw" but in this show much of them are big) because that will took forever xD really.
I see every episode twice: once for following and the other as parody, replacing the voices another fun(iest) show because every episode has at least five or six evident mistakes.

Just as example i am going to play the 2x11.

POSSIBLE SPOILER IF YOU DINDT ALREADY SAW IT:

Min
0:50 opening ended : okay.
0:57 Why Jackson didnt attack Abe in a more "animalistic" way? okay, i can roll with that ...
1:00 that vehicle bay door is always open so manimals can get out ?
1:08 Why the horses didnt directly stomp Dariela ... instead they just walking around and when just one went finally to her it attacked her lamely ( i felt like a Power ranger episode xD ) by the way, she had a rifle in that scene ... but she just drop it after one little trip ,without even trying to retrieve it a little !... so the fight can be more "interesting"?... she does not try to shot the horses at distance at first either?
1:20 didnt DA "russian ex machina" was too pushed? from the corny human-polygraph ( they never cuestioned how well informed was Jamie, so the intel obtained was probably tainted) to the fact that Robert Oz contact them for ... ? nothing except to inderectly tell the team that he is alive... what supossely: he didnt want but the PLOT needed ... :S
By the way: how easy the russian intel guy give her the name and location of his "secret source" ... it looks like the russian spies are not very good at keeping secrets xD
1: 42 so ... he went to surrender to get something ( a little dumb something, by the way) ... but he didnt think that they will try to catch him for free if he calls them ... from a cellphone ... outside their headquarters O.o
1:56 The bullet misses at the last second... so romantic. So Dr. Oz was waiting Jr. to finish and almost being shot before stop him? okay ...
First scene : hacking like if there was open cameras in the city and the social media info were trustfully ... i am out .
not more... xD

Dixit Billy Mays "Wait ... There is more!!" but i wont ... i cant ... xD sorry.

[–] JimiCobain 8 years ago

Now let's talk about your problems instead.
1. YOU TALK TOO MUCH.

[–] sincro1990 8 years ago

Not everybody`s is as perfect as you, man.
Have fun.

[–] parknuts-1 8 years ago

How ironic that someone complaining about others' bad writing can't seem to spell that word. There's only 1 t in "writing".

[–] sincro1990 8 years ago

Oh thanks! sorry for that ... i was in a rush and english is not my native tongue ! i always got that double letters all mixed ! corrected :)

[–] tdawg_2484 8 years ago

Dear sincro, I'm glad to hear how good at writing you are, you clearly understand it all, so my question is what show do you write for? Or like most trolls do you have a pointless job that contributes to the world in no way and spend copious amounts of time online trying to find a place where your pointless existence matters and you can feel " intelligent"

[–] DrZaat 8 years ago

I feel that the OP is too critical of the show. However, that doesn't make him a troll. After all, the purpose of these boards is for expressing one's opinion. In fact, tdawg, your unnecessary personal attack is far more trollish than anything written by the OP, and makes me wonder how pointless you feel your own existence is.

As for the other poster who mocked the OP for his errors: anyone with a modicum of intelligence would have been able to tell that English is not the OP's first language. However, you were so desperate to get some kicks by berating someone else, that you could not see that, and revealed what a fool you are. I'd love to see your flawless writing in a second language, except I'm sure you only [and barely] can speak/write English.

[–] shaunaruss 8 years ago

DrZaat - I sooooo very much agree with your comment and thank you for pointing out these things!

When we use the internet to communicate with others we need to be intelligent enough to remember that the world has become even smaller due to our online capabilities. I know that I get very discouraged by those who are obviously Americans, yet can't compose a simple sentence correctly. We absolutely do not need to act smug about the intelligence nor education of Americans. Just as it is in every other country on earth, there are some people who care about their educations (and it shows without anyone bragging about it) and there are others who think they are too "smart" to waste their time listening to teachers or elders (and it really shows even without someone pointing it out).

@sincro1990 (OP - original poster) - I was very glad that you had an opportunity to point out that English is not your native language, at least for those who were unable to figure that out. Obviously, you are aware that your English writing is fraught with errors, but I want to congratulate you for the courage you have in trying to communicate in a meaningful manner in a foreign language. I've been studying Hindi, but I have to admit that I don't have the courage to try and write out much of a comment in that language. I also want to mention that even though I agree with another here that you seem overly critical of the show, I was impressed to read about your thought processes on how to develop plot, characters and how to keep motivations realistic - clearly, you have put a lot of thought into this and it would be my guess that you probably received a very good grade on your school paper. Seeing how well you have studied in this area, I have no doubt that in a short time, you'll probably be writing English in a way that no one can guess it's not your native language. Nice to see students who work hard on subjects and those who are willing to take chances for the opportunity to learn - I was very impressed by two of your responses to other comments. Even though it was a rude comment from Jimi Cobain, your response was very friendly - i really get sick of seeing people respond to criticism with vulgarity - a sure sign of a weak mind. You were also very humble in your response to the criticism about your spelling of "writing" and I was impressed that you had taken the comment to heart and went back and corrected your use of that word! Good for you!

When we refer to an "online community" it can easily include all sorts of folks with differing backgrounds, beliefs, opportunities - from any place around the world. It would be so nice to see people respond to each other with more kindness and humility. We all spend a great deal of our time online which makes this community significant in our lives. If we strive to accept, understand and create friendships with those in our online communities it indicates a maturity as citizens of a smaller than ever world. I am amazed and grateful for all that I'm taught by those who use their time to share their insights with us - thank you!

Shauna & Ms. Phoebe, my God-given Happy Pill

[–] sincro1990 8 years ago

Thanks for the time, sympathy and nice words, Shauna & Ms. Phoebe ... :) what a great way to deliver a great message.

Well, yes; i am, mostly, a self-taught learner in english and two more languages (i am bragging now xD ) and, as you evidence in you own experience with hindi: there is something that the people who try to learn another languaje gets from it beyond phrases for taxis in another country: first you get humility, because youll learn that is okay not to know something! and that you can ask for help to the human next to you and, very probably, he/she will try his/her best to help you even if they can barely understand you... i have seen this happen and now have a nicer attitude (and hope for the humanity xD).
Second, by try to understand another languaje, you get also a new style of sensitivity: one about cultural differences: deeper and truly than any of the politically correct speech that invades the world. By noticing how many words are in portuguese for gratitude and how surprisingly direct it is, how in german words are careful in requesting with exactitude and respect, and in spanish how diferenciated by levels and types are the words for love and states of mind; you kinda get that cultures different! is so fun! what have you notice about hindi as a learner? i am curious about it too!

About english, well ... is a very open languaje and, sadly, has become one of the most sundered via internet: without the connotation, declamation and body language may be ambiguous and almost EVERYTHING that you say ( or write, in this case) can be confused or misread.
Finally yes, i had a good grade on that one :D ! and if it has not been evident till now: I am a bit of a overthinker (spoiler alert!), which translates even to my opinions on a show xD sorry for that ... but is just that i love the premise and its originality ! as a said to DrZaat up there too: bothers me because there is a, in my opinion, clear responsability in the writing and i dont want the show cancelled for something like that :(

Again: thank you for your kindness and support! is really moving :) I hope you get to opine in a hindi board soon and get a nice response there !

[–] sincro1990 8 years ago

Oh. Thank you for notice it... and yes, i can be seen to critical :s but is just because i am so dissapointed with that :( ... I absolutely love the originality of the premise and most of season 1! the fact that the writing may end up being the death sentence of the show bothers me because there is a, in my opinion, clear responsability in the writing.

And about trolling, well: did everybody else notice how the anonymity and immediacy of the internet make some people more vicious than they really are? at least i want to believe that,in person, they will be not as likely to seek fight for something as silly as an personal opinion of a tv show...

Thank you and, by the way, this is actually a way to me to practice my english.
Poster have been compromised. Poster now will self-destroy ! (xD)

[–] sbevian 8 years ago

The guy just gave his opinion of this show
You however ..... seem to like attacking him... why exactly?
If there is a 'troll' here, it's not him. Giving an opinion is not trolling, calling someone names I'm afraid is. seriously, in what way does your comment contribute to the discussion about plotholes? I'd love it if you could point that one out to me. And if it didn't contribute at all, then, why write the comment?

[–] sincro1990 8 years ago

Maybe there is a secret lottery going on in internet and the admission fee is a gratuitous trolling... sometimes it feels like that xD

[–] Fantomauve 8 years ago

Actually, the show's biggest problem is that James Wolk (Jackson/Rafiki) is not shirtless enough... lol!

[–] sincro1990 8 years ago

Well ... i guess we will always have Happy Ending`s "Everybody loves Grant" :D !

[–] hatkins-01125 7 years ago

Umm, are you even watching the show? She didn't shoot the horses cause they didn't have any ammo left, which they said like 10 seconds before the horse attack lol....

[–] spike_mf 7 years ago

Not to mention all the really bad facts on animal behaviours. Only got to third episode, but already seen so many extremely faulty statements on animals. Oh and yeah the best french speaking guy is Slovenian...

[–] Snaggelpuss 7 years ago

Lets park here and walk in the open where the lions killed all those people!

NO DRIVE THE F&^IN CAR OVER YOULL BE SAFE!

My pee tastes like toast