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Shirley MacLaine likes this film.

posted 9 years ago by faublekathryn
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She and her daughter Sachi enjoyed watching this movie about the moon. You can learn more about mother and daughter by clicking below.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/shirley-maclaine-chose-career-daug hter-sachi-parker-autobiography/story?id=18369521

[–] mp_usmc_srt 9 years ago

Nobody in thier right mind gives a dam what that old hideous nagging hag says or thinks.

Why would they care what a millionaire celebrity says or thinks unless they are a sheepele.

Not to mention we never went to the moon so she is a agent of disinformation.

[–] lca223 8 years ago

I guess you could say the same thing about what you think as well. By the way it's THEIR and SHEEPLE, and WE DID land on the moon.

[–] mp_usmc_srt 8 years ago

Prove it.

[–] lca223 8 years ago

I hope you realize that what you believe borders on the insane? Get help.

[–] mp_usmc_srt 8 years ago

What an odd and completely presumptuous thing to say and actually beLIEve.
Explain exactly in detail what lead you to such assumptions.

So you can't prove it.

[–] savcam500 8 years ago

Using a telescope, if you actually beLIEve in those, you can actually see the Lunar Lander's landing structure, which were left behind as the craft launched out of it to rejoin with the orbiter. As well, the astronauts left behind a reflective device which allows for a laser to be bounced off of it, thus allowing for precise measurements of the distance between the Earth and the Moon (which is how we know that the Moon is slooowly moving away from the Earth).

Using the powerful telescope of an astrophysicist friend of mine, I have seen the landing sites of two of the Apollo missions.

Prove that I haven't.

something terribly clever.

[–] mp_usmc_srt 8 years ago

I'm not in the business of proving anything on a personal level.
The moons surface is reflective from any point.
Show evidence of your claims because not one scientist has ever shown what you are describing.

See this is all based upon your own opinions.
Everyone has a right to their own opinions, but not their own facts.

[–] klibby716 8 years ago

The moon's surface is not reflective enough to bounce back a signal that can be detected. On Mythbusters they visited a lab that does laser reflecting off the moon, and they moved the aiming point slightly away from the laser reflector and no signal was detected. They then aimed at the reflector and the signal was detected.

[–] mp_usmc_srt 8 years ago

Once again the legendary disinformation show has been cited.
Yet why is it world renowned scientists and experts have done the same experiment and shown that the moons surface will reflect back at any point.
Mythbusters is not the final word nor is it a standard in the scientific community.

It's a show that has been shown to be without credibility or integrity in many cases.

[–] savcam500 8 years ago

[W]hy is it world renowned scientists and experts have done the same experiment and shown that the moons surface will reflect back at any point[?]

Prove it.

something terribly clever.

[–] yoshkapundrik 8 years ago

The moons surface is reflective from any point.

Mostly true. How else could we see it in the sky? It reflects sunlight. However, lased light is different. It is coherent light, and because of this, is able to be focused into a tight beam which leads to applications that ordinary light cannot do. One of these applications is the ability to measure distances with pulses, as any golfer or carpenter with a rangefinder can attest. Due to the uneven and granular surface of the moon and mostly due to the extreme distances involved, a reflected tight laser beam would not be detectable on Earth due to the lunar surfaces deflection and dispersion of the beam, much like you can't see your own image on a painted wall without a reflector (mirror), but still see the wall. I will not bore or confuse you with the math and science, but can and will supply it if needed. After reading some of your answers here and extrapolating, I really don’t think you’d understand it, anyway. But this is one of the reasons reflectors were placed there by the astronauts. Anyone with a laser and laser detector can show they're up there, in the exact spot they landed. This has been done by many organizations outside of NASA, and by many countries including the USSR.

Yet why is it world renowned scientists and experts have done the same experiment and shown that the moons surface will reflect back at any point.

Mathematics and scientific principles of lased light beg to differ. ALL the people in these fields that I know (and I know a bunch) would find your statement hilarious and probably a bit sad. Scientific article references for the experiment can be found at the end of the Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment. Please back up your absurdity and reference one “renowned scientist/expert”, study, or experiment that shows differently. The previous poster and I showed proof. Wildly unsubstantiated claims like yours are much too easily made.

My only object here is to guard against ignorance and misinformation by calling you and your kind on these ridiculous claims.

Edit: clarity

[–] savcam500 8 years ago

See this is all based upon your own opinions.

No no no, it's based upon something else entirely: empiricism, one of the most powerful tools of an analytical mind (and like the capital "E" philosophy expounded by Locke and Hume, it may be solely relied upon; like the man said, "Reality is perception." It's just that your perceived reality is, for lacked of a better word, *beeped*).

I really think that it would do you well to look into Epistemology a bit. Your fallacious arguments and specious and spurious attempts at logic are tired, coarse and boorish, and far too easily dismissed as the rantings and ramblings of the uninformed and unintelligent.

And stop making absolute statements; exempli gratia,

not one scientist has ever shown what you are describing.

because they're laughable arguments from ignorance.

something terribly clever.

[–] mp_usmc_srt 8 years ago

So I'm right.

[–] savcam500 8 years ago

Ahahahahahahaha.

I actually, really and truly, laughed aloud at that!

(Prove that I didn't.)

something terribly clever.

[–] mp_usmc_srt 8 years ago

Looks like it has been.

See everyone has a right to their own opinions, but not their own facts.

[–] jaystern 8 years ago

This poor a$$h0le is obviously mentally ill and a troll. Of course we went to moon. Please ignore him.

[–] yoshkapundrik 8 years ago

See everyone has a right to their own opinions, but not their own facts.

Yes, but your opinion might be that the moon is made of green cheese but the fact is it isn’t. You can claim it as truth all you want. Your opinion is delusional and entirely without basis, especially if your best proof is ‘it certainly looks like green cheese.’ I’m speaking metaphorically, of course. The six manned landings happened. There is just too much evidence.

[–] mp_usmc_srt 8 years ago

What an odd and completely presumptuous thing to say and actually beLIEve.
Explain exactly in detail what lead you to such assumptions without citing N.A.S.A.

You have a right to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
Because you say it's so, doesn't make it so.

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[–] yoshkapundrik 8 years ago

If anyone is being "odd and completely presumptuous" here, it's not me.

And sorry. It doesn’t work that way. I don’t have to prove an event so generally well accepted has, in fact, really happened. Since YOU refute this well established and documented event, YOU have to prove it hasn’t. And as Truzzi’s timeless quote states, “an extraordinary claim requires extraordinary proof.” No idle speculation here. No stating unsubstantiated claims as fact. No “I saw wires” where two eyes and logic show otherwise. And no responding by talking in circles with pseudo intellectual nonsense, as you’re in the habit of doing. You know what I’m talking about: verifiable statements that show specific unexplainable issues and undeniable proof of your position. So, since you made this outrageous claim, you’re on… I can’t wait.

Edit: grammar

[–] mp_usmc_srt 8 years ago

I guess you're ignoring the link that proves you to be incorrect about seeing objects on the moon.
You make a claim then refuse to prove it while demanding others prove their's.
The hypocrisy is off the charts with you.

[–] yoshkapundrik 8 years ago

I guess you're ignoring the link that proves you to be incorrect about seeing objects on the moon.

Irrelevant. And, of course, another misinterpretation by you. I never made a statement about seeing something. I just asked about YOUR evidence. Using your convoluted “logic”, bacterium do not exist because we cannot see them. And besides, yours truly wrote the response you are referring to. Check it out. And read the entire post.

Again, for the reasons previously stated (please reread), the proof is in your court, not mine. You can do better than this. Then again, maybe not.

[–] mp_usmc_srt 8 years ago

I stopped reading after you stated, "irrelevant".
You're without credibility or integrity therefore making you irrelevant to most people.
Have a better day.

[–] yoshkapundrik 8 years ago

Obviously, by deflecting your answers to the truly bizarre, you have no actual evidence. Who here is without credibility or integrity?

Edit: spelling

[–] papagaeio 8 years ago

The fact that he keeps copy/pasting "What an odd and completely presumptuous thing to say and actually beLIEve. " in response to everyone is bizarre.

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[–] yoshkapundrik 8 years ago

Using a telescope, if you actually beLIEve in those, you can actually see the Lunar Lander's landing structure, which were left behind as the craft launched out of it to rejoin with the orbiter. As well, the astronauts left behind a reflective device which allows for a laser to be bounced off of it, thus allowing for precise measurements of the distance between the Earth and the Moon (which is how we know that the Moon is slooowly moving away from the Earth).

Using the powerful telescope of an astrophysicist friend of mine, I have seen the landing sites of two of the Apollo missions.

Prove that I haven't.

OK, since you asked so nicely.

Nope, you absolutely cannot see Apollo remnants through a telescope. This defies the physical laws of optics. From Sky and Telescope magazine (http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/celestial-objects-to-watch/moon/how-to-see-all-six-apollo-moon-landing-sites/): "No telescope on Earth can see the leftover descent stages of the Apollo Lunar Modules or anything else Apollo-related. Not even the Hubble Space Telescope can discern evidence of the Apollo landings." Read the article for the science behind this, but in a nutshell, they're simply too small and too far away to optically resolve from Earth. This, however, has nothing to do with the question of if we have actually made the journey. You CAN see the remnants in photos taken by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, a probe once orbiting the moon.

I understand your reason in answering and agree with your position. Please, however, use factual and verifiable responses to this nonsense. Untruths and misinterpretations are his domain. Don’t give this delusional troll potential ammunition.

Edit: qualifying statement

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[–] jaystern 8 years ago

I've been following this thread for a while. I have NEVER known a Marine to surrender so easily, especially by someone that claims to be a member of the elite Marine Corp Special Response Team. I ALWAYS thought you guys loved a good fight. Kinda makes me think someone is FIBBING a little. A lying TROLL maybe.

[–] yoshkapundrik 8 years ago

I agree with you, jaystern. The psychological testing alone would definitely rule him out. I can't put my finger on which he is, a poor uninformed and delusional fool or, as others peg him, a troll here to just stir things up. I’m tending towards the latter. Either way, I truly feel sorry for him. My wish is he please consider getting some help.

[–] yoshkapundrik 8 years ago

I'd also like to apologize for missing his user name reference. I don't follow the military that closely. I understand the USMC abbreviation, but I had no idea what SRT stood for. I had to look it up after your post.