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What was Johns beef with Dutch?


Was it Johns wife who wanted to take off with Dutch , and when he rejected her, she committed suicide?

Was it his wife or daughter?

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I got the impression Dutch and John's wife were having an affair. Not a daughter.

He killed sixteen Czechoslovakians. Guy was an interior decorator.

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I watched the confrontation scene again and still didn't get it.

Another review I read thought it was John's sister.

Anyhow, daughter, wife or sister, they're all worth killing for ,I guess.

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Another review I read thought it was John's sister.


Might be onto to something. If it was his sister then could also have been Ben's mom. Ben tells the girlfriend his mom passed away when he was ten from an "accident." Then says he was living with his uncle at the time (presumably his mom too) and that his parents were not together. Probably was John's sister.





He killed sixteen Czechoslovakians. Guy was an interior decorator.

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Bingo!

Your right, I forgot about that quick exchange early in the movie.

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From conversations, there was some domestic problems between Ben's dad and Dee Dee, his mother and John's sister. John took in Ben. Dutch was seeing Dee Dee.
There is some subtle hints that John killed Ben's dad for hurting Dee Dee. John's MO seems to be to destroy the body, and cast doubt on the death of the victim, so everyone assumes they just ran off. He tells Ben that his father ran off in the same fashion. Dee Dee committed suicide when she found out, or perhaps John killed her too. What we are seeing is not two isolated murders, but the end of a series of killings related to John protecting Ben.
Dutch was killed because he knew, the same way Danny was killed because he knew about Dutch's murder.

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So John was a serial killer.

Creepy Wisconsin guy like Ed Gein.

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absolutely. In fact, I thought that while watching the film, that they were trying to show us Ed Gein from the killers perspective. As far as the murders themselves, they all seem fairly well justified. I mean, the one we actually see him do, Danny, the guy has a gun and a 5 gallon tank of gasoline. It was easily a self-defense case.

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He could have called the cops to take Danny away, but he enjoyed making his fires too much.

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Not meant to offend but how did you draw such a wild conclusion from the film? That contains way too much supposition.

Ben's dad didn't hurt Dee Dee. She was the one having the affair and she was the one that wanted to run away with Butch.

Timeline of events if you listen to all the dialogue:

-Dee Dee is having an affair with Dutch. Separates from husband.
-Ben moves in with John.
-Dee Dee kills herself. Ben's father leaves.
-Dutch has a religious experience and repents his sins. Confesses to John that he was present when Dee Dee killed herself.
-John snaps and attacks Dutch and ends up killing him(intentionally or not). Disposes body.
-Danny realizes John killed Dutch. John kills Danny when it's cleary Danny is going to kill/burn the house down. Either way he knows Danny is not going to let it rest.
-John hesitantly kills Danny, disposes body.

I really am not sure where you got the idea that he's a serial killer. There's no dialogue in the film to suggest this. Where would the justification be to kill Ben's father, and his own sister? And if he killed his own sister over a decade prior, why would he randomly kill Dutch after the fact? And why would Dutch confess to being present during the suicide if she was murdered elsewhere by someone else? Again, too much supposition, made up scenarios not in the script in any capacity, etc.

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agreed, I am guessing a little, but there is a definite pattern to the way he does things. He repeats his actions, and we are given certain pieces of information which fit into a pattern. Figuring out what happened in the past in this film is a little like a Sudoku. Killing Ben's dad fits into his pattern the way I see it.

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Wow! How did y'all come up with that. Killing all those people and being like Ed Gein? (I don't recall him making clothes out of human skin or digging up dead people for sex).
IMO John killed Dutch because he came by John's house to confess that he pushed Deedee off the cliff and John killed him when he heard that. He had to kill Danny to protect his family.
Made some bad decisions but hardly a serial killer.

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You're thinking of Ed Gein as the media depicted him and how he was when they caught him. However, Ed Gein was just a normal guy who went to church, knew people around a small town, etc. Nobody would have suspected he was a killer in a million years. Only he had secrets which nobody could learn, or they would have to die to protect those secrets. He might have felt perfectly justified in everything he did. That's the comparison I'm making with Ed Gein.

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Exactly!

There's more to this guy than meets the eye in this film.

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