Just Watched, and...


An incredibly one-sided documentary. They paint the people who advise these kids to get real jobs as villains. They make uninformed statements, about professional athletes being paid, while e-sports athletes are not. While the major league sports, like the NHL, NBA, etc get paid, other sports do not. Biathletes don't make money. Speed Skaters don't make money, even the ones competing in the Olympics. I know, because I myself was a professional Speed Skated for fourteen years.

I don't mind the idea of people pursuing gaming as a career, but if you're going to make a documentary about it, show both sides. Those parents are right--That kid is not a multi-millionaire and, if it wasn't for his parents support, he would have to get a job like a regular person.

I'm sorry, I know this post comes off as angry and bitter, but it's just bad filmmaking.

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I don't think it was one-sided at all, for each of the 3 showcased players (Dendi, Fear and HyHy), a large portion was them going over the financial ramifications if they're not able to win enough competitions in order to support themselves in addition to the future where they won't be able to compete anymore (losing reflexes as they get older). So they need to have something to fall back on.

I don't understand how you perceive the parents as villains when they were being realists about their children's future and didn't want them to fail (Or HyHy's father who didn't want him to follow his path and be stuck in an arduous 9-5 job for the rest of his life).

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"if it wasn't for his parents support, he would have to get a job like a regular person."

Ironically, this is not true.

This documentary focused on The International 1, which actually DID cause Esports to surge over the past few years.

Go on Twitch.tv sometime and look at the League and Dota 2 streams. Many of the more well-liked professionals (and even some non-pros) stream for several hours a day with a consistent 10, 20k plus watching them. They make enough ad revenue from Twitch to live off of, to say nothing of their sponsorship and tournament winnings.

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Also, I don't think the concerned parents were demonized. Hyhy's father admits he doesn't 'understand' his son's DotA gaming, true. But he clearly states that his motivation for wanting his son to focus on his studies is because he wants him to have opportunities his father didn't. He says directly, "I didn't study enough, and I don't want my son to end up like me." They even have a part where Hyhy looks down at his dad's workplace and describes how his dad has ended up in this dead-end position.

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Its not one sided. Its pointless.
The family who doubt this "profession" have valid concerns, most don't win anything and aging out is rather quick, then you are left with nothing.

And that's if you just give it a pass on everything else.

The movies titled f2p, yet it doesn't deal with that principle, it tells us nothing about f2p and the business of f2p which has become huge. Instead its a film...a "e sports" film no different than those puff pieces during the Olympics on each athlete, a little bit on their childhood, some silly interviews with family, then some coverage of the competition, but what does that have to do with f2p?

If you want to see a good video game movie, go watch something like King of Kong, that film did it right, it showed you why things mattered, it made you care. It even explained how the game worked and what they were up against, and how their strategies worked, people with zero understanding of that game felt like they knew what those gamers were up against. Contrast with this movie, where unless you already are a dota 2 player, the people on screen might as well be button mashing. They mention strategy, but its never illustrated, all you see is up close units fighting each other, no context, no explanation, no reason to care. The special features on king of kong are better than this movie, and I'm not kidding, do yourself a favor and go rent that film. Even the special features go deep nerd on the game, and you learn things.

This "documentary" was nothing more than an e-sports puff piece.

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I think you missed the train why they called it F2P. It's not because of its literal meaning but how these 3 players feel when they play the game. I'm sorry but I'm not even gonna argue about your other points because you just went full retard advertising your own fanboy movie when this documentary is not what you think it was.

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I totally agree with you. They keep trying to paint the kid as a millionaire player but he has to share those winnings with 5-6 other people. Not to mention that prize money like this is extremely rare and companies usually discover that it's a poor investment.

The hourly rate for even the most elite player is still embarrassing compared to a regular job...the slightly less than elite player can't even make ends meet - just like a top 100 tennis player.

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