I don't mind 5 films, but...


...I hope they change directors for each films. I mean, it would be kind of daunting for David Yates to direct all of those.

Not only that, director change could bring a new style into each film.

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He's already confirmed to direct 2...... something tells me he's here to stay.

As far as I know WB gave all the other potter directors invites to stay for the first 4 films, so I have a feeling Yates will be leaving when he's ready and or stops making them money. Neither are likely to happen sadly.

I agree strongly with you about style. That's why I hated him directing the last 4. I liked directors staying for no more than 2 films.



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I'm the opposite. I like them staying because it gives the movies more consistency. While I liked seeing how different directors did stuff in the movies, it kind of bugged me with the first 5 where stuff kept changing around Hogwarts and the grounds or just how things looked. Having one director for all of them would give them a more cohesive look.

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You're not wrong but to me that's the magic of a series like this. And you've gotta take into account that not everyone likes Yates. 9 movies is so excessive.


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Yes please. They should replace Yates after the 2nd film. If he directs all the five and with the last 4 HP films, that would be a total of 9 films. That's too much franchise directing for any director. I hope he leaves.

Make a move, Reindeer Games..

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I do think he should leave after the second film (not that I dislike his work on the Potter films, in fact he's done some of my top favorites) but the only thing I keep thinking about is... Yates is a safe choice, we know his stuff works because it has worked 4 times now. I'm slightly worried who WB would pick to replace him considering how they've handled some of their other movies recently. Obviously I'd love Alfonso to return but that may not be who WB would wanna ask anymore so until a director is announced I'm gonna continue being slightly worried that they'd pick someone terrible.

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WB probably enjoys collaborating with David Yates, because the actors like working with him. He might be the safe choice, but he is one of the few directors who is easy to deal with.

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Well that's why I said he was the safe choice. We know that what he brings to the table works because the track record is there.

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I'll never get over him not getting HBP. He said he did want that one



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Me neither. That movie would have been amazing if he directed it.

It is my favorite book and Yates ruined the movie.

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It would be interesting to see Cuaron's take on it for sure, but I don't believe he would have included any more exposition or memories about Tom Riddle than Yates did. Cuaron uses exposition sparingly in his films and often conveys things visually, which Yates actually did a few times with the exposition, especially concerning Draco's mission in the film. I really don't think the script would have changed much if Cuaron had directed it, but visually I am sure he would have put his stamp on it.

Did you know that Cuaron has praised Yates' direction on Potter? If I recall the interview I read correctly, he said Yates' films had a "quiet poetry" about them which he liked, and he was jealous at his vision of the dementors and their smoke effects (I think he meant the death eaters).

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No, I didn't know that. It actually surprises me.

The third movie has always been my favorite. I always hoped that Cuaron would return to the franchise. I never understood why they didn't have other directors after Yates, especially after the weak fifth movie. Sure, it made a lot of money, but I thought it was the weakest one.

Yates is the main reason why my expectations for the Newt Scamander's movies aren't very high. I really hope he isn't going to direct all 5. I know he has already confirmed that he's also doing the second movie and I was expecting him to do the entire trilogy, but now that it has been announced that there are going to be five movies, I'm hoping that he stops after the second one.

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I agree about OotP. I think Goldenberg's involvement contributed to its mediocrity considering I really enjoyed Yates' other movies which Kloves penned. Yates' direction also feels far more assured in the last three. I know some find his style dreary or sterile or whatever, but personally I like his clean aesthetics. In some ways it feels a bit Kubrick-esque to me.

That said, 9 Yates directed Potter movies is too much. I hope he leaves after the second to give other talented directors a chance to bring their vision to the table. I doubt Cuaron will return, but he would be the perfect director for this. PoA has always been my favourite film in the series.

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I definitely agree that the script for OotP was the problem with that film. No director could have made it work.

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Its only saving grace was ultimately some great casting choices. Imelda Staunton carries most of the film and makes it mildly engaging to watch despite being a mediocre film

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I think part of what Imelda Stuanton so good, was those horrendous pink costumes.

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Yeah, the costumes and production values were topnotch as always.

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The 3 hour cut might have worked.

IMO HBP is the worst out of all them.



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Is that 3 hour rumour true though? If so it seems stupid to write such a lengthy script to begin with knowing WB would never allow a 3 hours Potter film. Goldenberg needed to find a better rhythm. He could have started the film in the court room for example and used exposition to convey the dementor attack. Or intercut the scene with flashbacks of the dementors to show how Harry is telling the truth. The first 15 minutes are a waste of screentime as is considering the story really picks up when Harry is being questioned at the ministry. Then you could cut to Harry walking through the Ministry of magic to establish the setting, cut to mr. Weasley picking him up there and taking him to the headquarters. Sirius would be re-established in the next scene and Harry meets Hermione and Ron. It's just more economical storytelling in my opinion.

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There was an old Slant article saying WB didn't want any of their upcoming movies to be too long after a three-hour one flopped, and OOTP was said to be one of those films. Another had a quote from Yates saying he had a three hour cut of OOTP which he was going to cut about 40 minutes from. But he's also said this:

"Look, I'd put everything in if I had the time and the money, but I don't. I have to serve the form I'm working in—a two or two-and-a-half-hour film. You have to serve that shape, that rhythm, that pace. You want to retain the tonality of what's in the book; that's incredibly important because that's why these stories are so popular. But at the end of the day, you can't second-guess what everyone else wants. You'd drive yourself mad. So I find things that I respond to in the material and pursue that. In Order of the Phoenix it was Harry's isolation and anger. I stripped out all those lovely subplots down to a clear through line; you could follow his story and feel for him. In Half-Blood I adored the sexual and emotional politics. But it's obviously a job where you're going to get kicked. I can deal with that."


So who knows? 

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I wish that they could bring back Mike Newell or Alfonso Cuarón. Both guys directed some of the best Harry Potter films.

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You liked Newell's over the top "zomg it's magic" approach? That movie has the worst acting in the series besides the first two films. The pacing is a mess. Newell's way of framing scenes was pretty messy too, although he nailed the epic scale of the events. Goblet is still a decent film, but I wouldn't want Newell anywhere near these films. Look at Prince of Persia. It's a terrible fantasy movie he did after Goblet.

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Bring Cuarón back


No!

The first two movies were mediocre. Their redemptive quality other than the acting of the veterans is that they were pretty close to the plot of the book. But given that these were the smallest books, it's much easier to do than in the later movies.

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Pretty sure you're mixing up Columbus and Cuarón here.

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I agree with you. Goblet of Fire is my favorite Potter book, but it's the film that I dislike the most from the film series.

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I agree that Newell is really mediocre but I don't hate him. I think a big factor of me hating Yates is him sticking around if that makes sense. I probably would hate Newell just as much if he'd stayed(possibly more lol).

I've never heard any of the actors say anything good about him. I don't hate Goblet of fire because I liked some of the visuals and the graveyard scene quite a bit.

The acting is terrible but there is one thing I personally have always found strange. Unpopular opinion but I think ralph fiennes did the best Voldemort in this movie. Besides the weird yelling I remember really liking his performance. But then in the last movie they made him very strange. Giving him odd mannerisms and smiling and laughing too much. it was awful and it seemed like he was over acting imo.

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Yeah, Ralph possibly gave his best performance in Goblet, which is strange considering the acting in general was weak in the film.

And I quite agree the graveyard scene is excellent, along with some of the action.

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Ralph is good friends with Newell, maybe that's the reason! Haha


I think it was more the costume, makeup, and set design in GoF that helped influence Ralph Fiennes' acting. He said, it was meant to almost be like a child walking for the first time.

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