I can't help but wonder not only if this movie would have been made, but also the outrage that would come from the media if a movie were made about a teenage female that is statutory raped by a 40 something male and then she became the bad guy. There is no way that would be acceptable and only in the modern, anti-male time would it be acceptable to do this movie in this way.
shareLook up the movie Crush with Alicia Silverstone. Same plot and the man KNEW she was 14 when he kissed her. She was still a psycho.
shareHe didn't kiss her in The Crush, she kissed him.
shareyeah, but it was just a kiss, which was completely different than sex.
sharehe kissed, he didn't fk her, lets not pretend there isn't a difference...
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Actually: the "Violence Against Women Survey" of 2007, equivocates violent rape and "attempted forcible kissing" (which doesn't even require physical contact). So according to the popular survey (an online survey at two colleges, eight years ago, and extrapolated to the entire nation) which gave us the oft-repeated "one in five women in college will be raped" statistic; not only is kissing sex, but attempting to kiss is the same as rape.
Get with the times, fella. Now even boys who were sexually molested by women can be charged to pay child support if their rapist got pregnant.
You all should watch the movie Fish Tank. It's a British film starring Michael Fassbender. It quite literally fits the description the OP described (but not as "horrific").
sharethey didnt have sex, and she framed him for rape
i've got feelings too, ya know - inbetweeners
There already is a well-known movie where a forty something man obsesses over an underage girl. Although I agree there is a bias towards things like this. But you are wrong that man-hating has anything to do with it. It is men who tend to say boys cannot be raped by adult women because "they would enjoy it".
sharewell they're wrong because EVERY woman and man who is under 18 would be scarred by that experience for life. it's just not right mostly because their brains aren't developed enough before 18 and also the position of power that a teacher has makes it very disturbing to the student.
shareYou're kidding right ? The rapist is always the stronger one.
A (normal) 15-16 year old boy is a lot stronger than an adult woman; ergo: he can never be raped by her.
And the (emotional) scars ? We should all be so lucky to have such scars ! :)
you are such an immature, undeveloped child. he didn't rape her. you must be living in fantasy land because it's really ignorant and dumb and clueless in the ways of the world for you to think a 15 or 16 year old boy can never be raped by a woman. and being physically stronger doesn't make you unable to be raped by a woman.
shareIf men are being "raped" by women why the *beep* are their dicks getting hard?
sharebecause we can't control when our dicks get hard.
sharereading all your comments i came to the conclusion that you are a prehistoric moron to whom our descendants will look at as we do now at the spanish inquisition
"Anyone who claims to be a feminist instead of a humanist is a tap dancing monkey."
reading your latest post here I came to the conclusion that you are a pathetic and utterly useless waste of a person and an idiot and a moron to whom our descendants will look at as we do now at idiotic people.
sharebecause we can't control when our dicks get hard.Uh oh, really Luke? You sure have many issues with that opposite sex. You've repeatedly stated that many women deserve to be degraded. Now you also admit that you can't control an erection around women. It's no wonder that you're having so much difficulty just getting a first date. share
and I repeat : impossible ! Maybe you can't control your dick; but believe me: most men really can.
If a man gets raped in prison by another man; do you think his dick gets hard, because he can't control it ?
You've got issues man !!
that's incredibly naïve to think that. yes, a man cannot control when he gets an erection. so yes a man could get an erection when he gets raped in prison. a man can't ever control when he gets an erection.
share????????
so we've established the fact that you're a woman ! Thanks for that. Kinda ends the discussion for me here.
By the way: when you get aroused when you get sexually molested : you might wanna reconsider the fact that you actually were molested !
And I repeat ( cause I wanna make you understand this, despite everything): Men don't get erections when they are *ssraped in prison. Might wanna keep that to yourself whenever you meet someone, who actually went to the slammer ! :)
"Rape" isn't only a word for when you physically overpower someone who can't get away. Psychologically manipulating a child into a sexual act counts as rape, and for good reason—even if he's an athletic 16-year-old and you're an older woman.
share16 is past the age of consent in most US states. Just so you know.
And he's 19. Which is way past the age of consent in ALL US states.
Sorry, look for another fantasy.
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I wasn't talking about the characters in this movie (no idea what ages they were supposed to be until you said so), I was talking about statutory rape in general: in short, saying that supernaft is wrong that a teenage boy can't possibly be raped by an older woman, because it can still be rape even without someone being physically overpowered.
As for "look for another fantasy," no idea what you mean by that. If you're accusing me of being turned on by the idea of seducing a minor, that's dead wrong and I don't have a clue what gave you such an impression.
(P.S. I don't live in a state where you can legally consent at 16, and frankly wouldn't much care if I did. Even if the state government didn't call that statutory rape, I would.)
Well, I'm having fun !
The dictionary saids :
unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the v*gina, *nus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the victim.
Now, what you're saying : without the consent of the teenager; a woman can still magically arouse him; give him an erection and climb upon him (or do you think, she can make him thrust against his will too ?)
I'm starting to think you missed out on a lot of fun stuff, back in the day ! :)
Now, what you're saying : without the consent of the teenager; a woman can still magically arouse him; give him an erection and climb upon him...
What I'm saying is that a minor, by definition, cannot meet the legal standard for consent. They can say "yes" all day long, and the fact remains that their brain hasn't finished developing and their making that decision isn't the same thing as when an adult makes it.
get out of the desert, my dear madam. A woman cannot rape a (normal) 16 year old boy.
Are any of you "a woman can rape a 16 year old" advocats actually male ?
I'm betting you're not !
people like you are the reason why so many female pedophiles get away with what they do. and boys are ashamed to tell anyone for fear that idiots like you will call them gay for not liking it.
i've got feelings too, ya know - inbetweeners
many female pedophiles ?? Listen buddy: there is a very big difference in wanting a 16 year old guy in your bed in stead of a 6 year old boy !
Sadly there are a lot of male pedophiles : but when you read up on the trials about these virmin, their victims are mostly under 12 years old.
When a grown man has sex with a 16 year old girl, he's certainly not applauded, but also not despised as the real virmin. I actually know a guy who did that ( thought she was 19) and wasn't proud of it, but he's not a monster.
The world isn't black and white; growing up makes you realise that. So you learn eventually.
yes many female pedophiles, you nitwit. just recently there was a case of an adult female teacher who had a thing with an 11 year old girl. another case where a woman was sending sexually texts to a 13 year old. youre basing your argument off of a stupid school boy fantasy, and stereotypes. FYI just because someone is 16 doesn't make them any less of a victim. get the hell out of my face.
i've got feelings too, ya know - inbetweeners
nitwit ? Name calling ? Thank you. I rest my case, me fair lady !
:)
You're kidding right ? The rapist is always the stronger one.
A (normal) 15-16 year old boy is a lot stronger than an adult woman; ergo: he can never be raped by her.
And the (emotional) scars ? We should all be so lucky to have such scars ! :)
Just sayin'...??
you just described someone's fantasie and I'm guessing it's yours !
:)
Again: can't happen.
WATCH THE MOVIE!!!!!
It is about a 19 YEAR OLD MAN.
Not an underage boy.
American Beauty.
But still, the older woman can always be more provocative in this instance (thankfully) than a young girl.
The pedophiles will always have the Little Miss Pageants and the reality TV show on TLC (?).
Terrible things Lawrence. You've done terrible things.
what does the following mean?: But still, the older woman can always be more provocative in this instance (thankfully) than a young girl.
shareI saw some movie a while back that featured (among other plot lines) a married 40-something high school teacher who is seduced by one of his students. She's manipulative and tries to say it was rape but the whole thing is on CCtv.
So yes, there are plenty of instances where audiences are presented with a sympathetic view of a man in this position.
exactly it's such a dumb double standard. and this exists in the real world also. a woman teacher who has sex with an underage male student is barely slapped on the hand for that crime whereas if it were a male teacher having sex with an underage female student he would be locked away for years. It's sickening this imbalance that exists in society in America. woman or man student they are going to be scared for life for having sex with their teacher because before they are 18 they are still just kids.
share^^^^^^This is the best response about the double standards about teachers having sex with their students.
When it's a 35 year old woman that has sex with a 16 year old student. Everyone is saying. "Oh that's one lucky guy." "I wish my teacher had done that to me." And then she cries and says how sorry she is and gets a slap on the wrist.
But if it was a 35 year old man having sex with a 16 year old student. You hear how he took advantage of her. How wrong it is. And then the book is thrown at him. The teacher goes to jail and becomes a sex offender.
It's time for this double standards of teacher/student sex cases to end. Women that have sex with their students and get caught should and need to face the same type of punishment that male teachers would face. They should be locked up and become a registered sex offender.
I absolutely agree with you this double standard is so wrong on a legal basis. how can the legal system be so ignorant and out of touch with reality when it comes to women taking advantage of horny male students?
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When it's a 35 year old woman that has sex with a 16 year old student. Everyone is saying. "Oh that's one lucky guy." "I wish my teacher had done that to me." And then she cries and says how sorry she is and gets a slap on the wrist.
Apparently, you haven't been watching the news lately---there have been several cases in the past couples of years where female teachers found messing around with their underage students were arrested and sent to jail. Trust me, that s*** is no longer looked upon as some cool thing to do, and it's just as wrong when a woman messes around with an underage boy. Here's a couple of cases like that when the teachers got arrested,straight up:
http://www.inquisitr.com/693633/michigan-teacher-arrested-for-sleeping -with-two-students-2/
http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1901762,00.html
Mary Kay Letourneau spent over seven years in prison. I kind of suspect this claim of an anti-man "imbalance" is based on just about no data at all.
shareShe was really given a slap on the wrist the first time.
She got that prison time because after the first time she got arrested, she was let out again and given a restraining order to say away from the kid, and then the cops caught her *beep* him in her car.
There's definitely a double standard. I remember when the case of the teacher who got pregnant by her 14 year old student came up a long time ago and she was called hot and he was called a stud and it was treated like some love story but a few years ago when a 40 something male teacher was with his 17 year old student he was called a creeper and she got slut shamed. It definitely happens in fiction as well hence the controversy over the male teacher female student relationship on Pretty little liars.
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Yeah, but that same teacher--Mary Kay Letorneau---went straight to jail for seven years, so she didn't get away with anything. I remember that case and thought it was so disgusting that a teacher would take advantage of a student that young---he was just a kid, for goodness' sake in her own class.. I was even more disgusted years later when they actually got married years later after she served her sentence and when he turned twenty-one----I thought that was so gross---yick!
I'm not talking about the point that she went to jail and that she didn't get away with it but how the media glamorized it and acted like it was some epic love story and talked about hot she was but when a similar case happened and it was the other way around, and the girl (Jordan something) was actually older like 17, they treated the guy like dirt and her like a slut so much that she had to drop out of school. I'm not talking about legally but the way people in general treat the situation and the male teacher didn't go to jail or anything but yet he's the one treated like a creeper and not her.
Mom to Isabelle, and instant mom to Kayleigh.
She really got off easy the first time she got caught. She was given a slap on the wrist and was given a restraining order.
Then she was caught with him AGAIN, so they weren't going to be so easy on her the 2nd time around.
A twisted but interesting story.
In "The Roommate" the teenage villian seduces the male older married teacher. That plot line has been done before.
shareIt certainly has been done before. The question though is how is it received.
Plots like this one where the role is reversed (older woman/younger man), people do tend to focus on other things, not the illegality of what's really going on.
Conversely, when it's an older man/younger woman, people are repulsed by it. And will even comment on that aspect of the movie.
Guarantee that if you ask most people what this flick is about they'll say it's a "Fatal Attraction" type movie and totally ignore the specifics of it….meaning an older woman with a supposed guy who's in high school.
I will admit though that it is men who are often the perpetrators of that belief….that a young man can't be damaged by such a thing. They high five him, call him a stud, call it a right of passage or some stupid thing like that. That's because they're just as immature as the young man they're high-fiving is.
So that tells us nothing about the difference between what's right and what's wrong.
At the end of the day, a high school male is thinking with only one thing. And he can be taken advantage of because of that. And that's why he needs to be protected by the law just as much as high school girls are. An older female who should know better should be prosecuted just as much as a man would be.
Most teenage boys are not as mature as their female counterparts either. They may think they are. And others might think that just because they have growing muscles and are stronger than women they must be in control. But that's not the case, mentally-speaking.
The funny thing is I'm sure this "actor's" friends are probably high-fiving him because he gets to be in a movie with J-Lo.
While her female fans who are her age-contemporaries, with all their middle-aged female insecurities, are high-fiving her for showing that women can "still be desirable" to a hot young stud at that age. lol
It's all insecurity-based. Or immature.