The ending?


So, who "woke up" at the end; David or Ryan? Since they were both bald, I couldn't tell (haha).

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The bad guy woke up. Freewill is doomed.

The Buddha/good guy died hence blood leaking out from the bullet he got from bad guy.

Bad guy survived the double link and his dead didn't explode because good guy was a buddha and kept his mind blank.

The irony is the buddha tried to save everyone and he still ended up killing everyone.

It comes full circle with what the brown buddha master said would happen when he made that whole doing a wrong doesn't make a right and doing a right wont fix a wrong(I am paraphrasing of course).

Makes sense now? :)

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naw, David the Buddhist woke up at the end. You have to look at the set of the eyebrows which is different. David's are set lower, Ryan's higher. Ryan got blown away by the cops because he was the one firing the gun. Not sure what may have happened with the bullet he fired though. Brains essentially defeated Brawn, like David always said. And, it's possible David still has his knowledge, because if Ryan got shot there might not be any thoughts to create any kind of feedback loop from. David is quite possibly completely brain intact.

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I just finished watching and I can confirm it was David who woke up.

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i liked this movie up until the ending. in general i don't like movies where the solution to the problem is destroy the technology. i don't believe that's a viable solution, as whatever got discovered now will ultimately get discovered later by some other research team. better to usher the technology in, share the tech and the knowledge that it's out there. level the playing field is always a better way to handle. nukes, hacking, satellites, missiles, guns. you can't undiscover something once it's out there, nor should we want to.

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i don't believe that's a viable solution, as whatever got discovered now will ultimately get discovered later by some other research team


It’s safer to allow that to happen later than now; too early than the world is ready for as evident in the current projection of the antagonist agency wanting to rule from the get-go.

better to usher the technology in, share the tech and the knowledge that it's out there.


I agree and disagree with this notion. This isn’t a weapon that can physical be counted, maintained and inspected. You can’t just go around with a UN treaty and invoke an inspection in compliance; this technology affects the mind. You can’t control something you don’t understand as evident to the C.I.A vs David. He knew of the feedback loop and they did not. I believe there are other dangers not exposed in the movie and might be used as loop-holes down the road. The tech in the movie imo was still in alpha/beta stage. So many unknowns yet to uncover, you never share technology you don’t fully understand yourself!


In my opinion in David’s world, the tech was not ready yet for the world. In fact, he stole it from the C.I.A, improved it, broke the code with their nano tubes, and they stole it back for furthering their evil agenda from the very start. Nope, destroy it.


If you are seeing yourself standing in another room, you are definitely not fine

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since you can't stop technology, and this tech is too big for any one person or tiny group of people to fully understand. at least if everyone knows that capability is out there, it takes away the power of any tiny group controlling, because frankly everyone has it, and everyone knows about it. so now you get a true democracy of tech and counter tech. someone might be able to come up with safeguards against the dangers the original few didn't see. in general, more minds working on any technology is more chance to have it all balance out.

a good example is hacking. since everyone knows it's a privacy concern there are hackers, but then there are just as creative counterhackers coming up with security tools fighting against it. if it were kept quiet, the hackers would run free because there simply wouldn't be enough creative minds coming up with solutions against them. making any tech like that public all of sudden makes it the evil few against the entire world.

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