So her own father...? SPOILER


taught her how to chicken fight? How the hell else would she have known to do that movement? WTF was that? Was she orgasming? This movie was f^cking stupid.

"What would you like to see on your honeymoon, Mrs. Cord?"
"Lots of lovely ceilings."

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Yes, her father taught her the incest game that his sister made up. Yes, she had an orgasm, that was "how to play chicken fight."

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At what point is she orgasming? It just looks like regular masturbation face then she laughs and jumps off, I don't get where everyone sees the orgasm or why it's such a weird deal.

I'm still not sure how the dad can excuse and even condone perpetuating the cycle of abuse out of some weird unresolved feelings towards the abuser.

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I don't think the question of whether or not there was an orgasm is particularly important. Personally my take on it was the director tried to get her to fake an orgasm without putting it in sexual terms, like "rock back and forth, then yell like you're really enjoying yourself," or something. The other matter I addressed in that other thread.

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On the contrary, I'm 90% sure it was the uncle who molested the mom when they were kids, not the other way around. Particularly because she, not him, was the one crying at the end. Crediting her with making up their "game" is just shifting the blame onto her. And I think it's very likely (albeit not entirely certain) that he's now molesting his daughter as an adult. Most non-abused children don't behave in that sexualized way, at such an early age.

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On the contrary, I'm 90% sure it was the uncle who molested the mom when they were kids, not the other way around. Particularly because she, not him, was the one crying at the end.

Why, just because he's a man she's a woman?

What keeps Cindy from coming forward to police about Keith/Molly incest is that her past deamons would come to light: that she would be shown as the one who instigated the incest between her and her brother years ago (aside from the fact about 30 people at the party would testify Ryder raped Molly having seen her run away with blood). We are never told how old Cindy and Keith are, but based on their children's age, it's plausible Cindy is the older sister.

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