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Dumb. I liked Logan Miller but right after the blood stain, the way everyone was acting was like watching someone choke on an ice cube that you know is going to melt. I got the end "twist" but again it was pretty simplistic and basically just petty too.

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what was the end? What ends up happening?

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Basically the Uncle planned for his daughter to act inappropriate with his nephew, thus further ostracizing him from the family, to get back at his sister for being inappropriate with him when they were kids because he was jealous she got to go to college and he didn't

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That's extremely dumb.

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Actually, it is the most insightful comment I've read in these threads.

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No wonder you didn't like the movie. Because you didn't even understand it.
Why do you think Molly asked Ryder "is it true that your dad isn't your real dad?"

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Your simplistic understanding of the ending doesn't provide a cohesive explanation of the film. There's incest (brother and sister, Ryder and half sister/cousin Molly, father and daughter) and there's hidden parentage ... No man uses a nine year girl (who has sexual knowledge and behaves sexually inappropriately) as a pawn unless he has been abusing her all along. It's a much uglier world than simple jealous ....

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That's where everything falls apart for me. The fact that there's all these different types of abuse going on is really strange type of cycle to have. The mom abuses keith who abuses Molly who technically abuses Ryder. It does seem weird to go through all of that work for revenge, unless Keith was trying to restore his name by bringing Ryder's down?

It's really confusing because it involves a victim becoming an abuser (Keith) and technically convincing his victim to become an abuser as well (Molly) all while setting it up to look like she's the victim and Ryder is the abuser.

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What people seem to be overlooking is that Keith was a psycho and total control freak. You could see that in the way he controlled everyone, even before the initial incident in the barn. Then later, with the gun, no mentally stable person behaves like that. That behaviour showed just how mentally UNstable Keith was. Keith's wife was cowed, as were all the other children, apart from Molly. They must have lived their lives in constant fear that Keith wouldn't suddenly become enraged over some trivial thing. The clue is Ryder's mom near the beginning of the movie not wanting his gayness to be mentioned once they got to the farm — and Keith. She well knew what kind of person Keith was. Everyone walks around him as if on egg shells.

What's worrying is that the world is full of Keiths who haven't been discovered yet. The spate of campus killings in recent years is just the tip of the iceberg. But, yeah, let anyone have a gun and they become fascinated in what it could do, what they could do. How powerful they feel when holding it. How much more powerful if they used it! And isn't it strange how so many of these psychos — Keith the character, as well as other real-life murderers like that guy in Norway and many in America — are nearly always neatly dressed and well-groomed — as if they're trying to hide their inner turmoil from the world.

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