Margot's kiss-
When Margot kisses Rosemary on the bed after helping her recover from the headache. Confused by why that took place?
shareToday's world where every single woman must portray some degree of lesbianism.
shareCompletely agree But then, EVERYTHING has gay undertones because EVERYONE is actually gay. Didn't you know? It's true. Just pick an IMBd board at random (e.g. All About Eve).
shareTotally agree. Can they just show to adult women as friends,geez and the last part was like a full on make out sesh..give it a break...
shareNo, they can't, otherwise you're accused of being a homophobe. And if a caucasian actress portrayed Rosemeary (as the book indicated) then you're accused of being a 'racist', or 'hater.'
It's the world we live in today…..
Knock if off Napolean make yourself a dang quesadil-la!
There was nothing in the book that implied homosexuality, so the addition of a homoerotic scene can be seen as something worth debating as to the necessity of and reasons for it.
There is nothing in the book that requires the Woodhouses to be of any particular ethnicity (see below). So it's irrelevant as to whether they're depicted in this adaptation as of Irish or Chinese or Hispanic heritage, it changes nothing about the likelihood of Rosemary (per the adaptation) having been a dancer and Guy an aspiring writer.
Guy was also depicted as being an actor in the original, and here he is a writer. You don't seem to have a problem with them changing that, or having changed the location from New York to Paris. Or that Rosemary didn't have a career in the original, but has retired from one now.
When the book was written, it was more likely a couple in NY and active in the theatrical community would have been white, some 40+ years later that is not the case.
You might have a point if this production was made into a period piece and was suppose to reflect that earlier era, but it's not. It's set in the present and, as such, reflects present day's demographics which have changed a lot in the past few decades.
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"You can tell a lot about a person from reading his biography."
I read the book as a teenager and remember it indicated or gave a clue that the Woodhouses were Caucasian at least Rosemary was. It was not spelled out but referred to. I could be wrong, I just remember reading that, I even remember it indicating she was more voluptuous that Mia Farrow or Zoe Saldana. I actually think Mia was perfect casting in the role. I only read it once, so could be wrong there too.
I didn't say anything about ethnicity, I was referring to race.
Knock if off Napolean make yourself a dang quesadil-la!
As I mentioned, the ethnicity of the couple had a lot to do with the time the book was written and the era in which it takes place. It would make sense that an upwardly mobile couple of which the husband is about to become a successful actor on Broadway in that era would have been white.
That's not the case today. IF the program was done as a period piece, then yes, it should have maintained what would have been authentic to the era. But it's not, it's set in the present, and what was predominately the case 40+ years ago is not the case now. E.g., while it had become legal in NY by then to allow for interracial marriage, it was still illegal in various states, the last of the anti-miscegenation laws were not ruled unconstitutional until 1967 - the same year the novel was published (the film was released in '68), which means it was written prior to the laws and attitudes changing. Given the racial tensions of the times, to have depicted an interracial couple as the norm would not have been accepted. Guess Who's Coming To Dinner came out the same year (1967), but depicted an interracial couple as not the norm (it was still illegal in several states when it was released), kept the subject light by making it a comedy and was a vehicle to address racism (both interracial racism and black on black racism).
Seeing a mixed couple today is wholly unremarkable since there are interracial couples of a multitude of ethnicities. Interracial marriage is not a polarizing political topic today. Gay marriage is.
Unless someone can point to how this adaptation would play out differently if the couple was white, the complaints are hollow. The story does not require the Woodhouses to be of any particular ethnicity, the story was shaped by the era. The adaptation is shaped by its era.
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"You can tell a lot about a person from reading his biography."
^ I guess I'm just not looking that much into it….it's 'movie' based on a novel that's 50+ years old I believe. Black, Caucasian, who cares…..Zoe Saldana was executive producer and had the starring role, she just happens to be black.
Knock if off Napolean make yourself a dang quesadil-la!
There is nothing in the book that requires the Woodhouses to be of any particular ethnicity (see below).
You mean other than the fact that Levin lets us know that Rosemary is Irish Catholic, that she's conflicted about giving up her faith with dreams that reflect this, and that her family opposes her marrying a non-Catholic whose mother is divorced and remarried to "a Jew?" And that he specifically mentions black characters' ethnicity?
Maybe we read different books. share
In the book Rosemary is written as an Irish Catholic girl from Omaha.
shareyou're 100% right.
it's called an agenda, or propaganda, or conditioning.
one of many.