This is just more dishonest feminist propaganda, oh look the evil men are keeping down the poor good hearted women. Absolute rubbish.
In reality it was nothing like this black and white, check this out: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11509811/Why-has-everyone-forgotten-about-male-suffrage.html
Clickable:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11509811/Why-has-everyone-forgotten-about-male-suffrage.html
Thanks for the link, Bill.
I saw the film last night and, whilst I enjoyed it, I had the uncomfortable feeling that I was being manipulated. I'm always suspicious of anything that portrays history in such a simplistic, black-and-white way.
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If there aren't any skeletons in a man's closet, there's probably a Bertha in his attic.
What was so manipulative about that?? Are you another feminist that refuses to accept the truth when its right in front of them?
What was so manipulative about that?? Are you another feminist that refuses to accept the truth when its right in front of them?
Read your original post. It's easy to confuse what you're talking about.
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Another fool who misinterprets what someone said because the first thing he saw was a female responding. Which hand do you use to beat your wife? do you prefer kicking or using objects? maybe acid in the face?
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Wow, that's pretty interesting.
Yes, in some countries people have to join the military, whether they like it or not.
Totus Tuus O Maria!!! Totus Tuus O Jesu!!!!
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Sarcasm much?
shareNo. I don't think he's being sarcastic.
Nature oppressed men and women into roles best suited to their strengths in order for men, women AND children to survive.
For millions of years, so called NATURE produced relatively egalitarian hunter-gather human societies where women produced most of the food, actually. It was the fight against nature called CIVILISATION that produced women's oppression and that only began 8-5 thousand years ago.
Learn your anthropology before embarassing yourself, mate.
LOL. You're the one paying attention to propaganda. You're the one who doesn't understand how hard life was for everyone before the technological age. We're talking about a time when you have to boil your own bathwater on the stove, which could take HOURS. We're talking about a time when men and women needed servants to take care of such Mickey Mouse horsesh!t if they had any hope of thriving and becoming successful.
shareSTOP USING FACTS! IT'S SEXIST! THE SUFFRAGETTES WERE NOTHING BUT PURE, NOBLE WOMEN AND ALL THE MEN WERE EVIL, KNUCKLE-DRAGGING MISOGYNISTS WHO TREATED WOMEN LIKE CHATTEL!
shareThose poor women, sitting comfortably in their cozy, well-lit, safe homes, able to work and earn a little extra cash while all the men in the house had the audacity to fight and die overseas in WW1 and WW2 without them. Damn men!
shareThose poor women, sitting comfortably in their cozy, well-lit, safe homes, able to work and earn a little extra cash while all the men in the house had the audacity to fight and die overseas in WW1 and WW2 without them. Damn men!
Who kept women out of the military?
And which gender starts wars?
Women. It's a woman who created the modern book of etiquette
It's a natural thing built into all men, to be self-sacrificing for our women and children if we need to.
That's what drives societies to start wars... for the most part
It's despicable that you people continue associate the heroes of WW2 with the psychotic enemies. How dare you! Do you know how fcking disrespectful that is to all the men that sacrificed their lives for your freedom??
No, men kept women out of the military since the first formations in the ancient world since men run the military.
Roman society prevented poor men from joining the military until the Marian reforms since war was seen as a glorious pursuit in riches.
I doubt a punk bitch like you is worth sh!t in a fight.
No, you made that association with your strawmen. WW2 was mostly imperial powers and expansionist powers fighting other imperialist powers and expansionist powers. USA and South America, native genocide. Britain and France built empires on murdering natives in far off lands.
Blaming women for wars when it is our gender in charge of armies and governments that make the decisions to go to war is dumb.
Such maturity for a "progressive" person.
I respond in kind.
shareNo, you started that. I responded in kind.
sharewhat the hell are you smoking Luke? Do you think youre a real man talking the way you do,blaming women for everything especially wars and denying women were ever oppressed? Are you insane?You could never be a real man with your attitude and lack of intelligence.
shareNice shaming language, but it doesn't change how right I am. The fact that you exonerate all women as the ultimate victims and all men as the only thing victimizing them shows how sexist and ignorant people like you are. The fact that you don't understand how the natural world works, how hard life was for both sexes, why it was so important for men to lead in a world that was so harsh that women in mass were paralyzed by it... it happens, shows that feminists like you are total idiots.
As far as women being paralyzed by the harshest conditions, ever hear of the "Freeze, Flight or Fight" response?? Any one of those three responses is how most humans psychologically react to trauma. And the right conditions in the natural world can be just as traumatic as a school shooting. Most women will freeze or flee. Most of the time, men fight until the danger has been subdued. If the danger can't be fought, men will flee but he will still think of his mate who has frozen up and lead her out of danger. This does not make men or women better than the other. BUT men are still going above and beyond for the sake of his woman. That should be respected, loved and admired by her no differently than he respects, loves and admires her for giving birth.
You could never be a real man with your attitude and lack of intelligence.
ignoring how much power women have had over the men in their lives
Remember that great line from Big Fat Greek Wedding:
The Husband is the head of the household but the wife is the 'neck'-and she can turn the head any way she wants....
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Who kept women out of the military?
Wars men started, You sir are an imbecile. The weapons of war were made by women, crafted by men, carried by the drafted children forced to fight or die by firing squads. Do you and your dad take turns beating up your mother?
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Maybe they should stop starting wars eh?
I don't know where you are from or how old you are but my family were bombed out and my grandmother and her children were sent to live in the country with a complete stranger who incidentally was a miserable old farmer who withheld food from them and even hit my aunt and uncles. The whole country was also on food rationing. So no they weren't sitting comfortably at home.
Your post is the epitome of black and white simple mindedness.
You make no specific mention of what is propaganda in the film. Certainly, there were and are many different groups of people disenfranchised. The film does not address every single way people had and have been disenfranchised. It addresses this specifically related to women's struggle to secure this right.
The real question is what are you actually critiquing in the film?
Mostly, it just appears you are ranting in some mode of denial.
Considering how much of a victim complex feminists have I'm surprised we don't see movies like this coming out every day. I mean we see it in the news, journalism, colleges, TV, law, government, and daily life all the time. I guess they are going for a less subtle approach now considering how much ground they have been losing of late.
shareExactly. It is a victim complex and the real problem is how much they're poisoned the minds of most other women with this crap. They don't inspire love and responsibility. They inspire selfishness and cowardliness in women. As much as they say that their goal is to empower women, at the end of the day, their BS only serves to weaken women. The toughest, most self-sufficient tomboys got most of their strength from following the example lead by men. If women are inspired to hate, fear or ignore boys altogether, how tough can they be? It takes selflessness and responsibility to actually love someone else, because that requires putting that person before yourself. All we hear from feminists is "Me, me, me," "My hardships," "My wants and desires," "What you did to me," "What you owe me," "What makes me feel happy and comfortable," etc.
shareYeah I had noticed the ironic nature of feminism as well. It preaches gender equality while only furthering the divide. An it turns girls who might have become women into whiny and fearful children. By creating imaginary boogieMEN they keep girls in a state of fear. It is terrorism in the plainest sense of the word. Forcing terror into girls in order to further a political agenda. The degree of hypocrisy is so very ridiculous. Now most women live in constant fear either resorting to violence against men without cause or living sheltered lives avoiding any meaningful interaction. The easiest manner in which to describe feminists would simply be sexist terrorists filled with hypocrisy and hate.
shareEXACTLY. Thank you. I wish I could hug you. Logical people need to stick together when the world is infested with so much chaotic selfishness and ignorance.
shareThe movie didn't lie about anything it told the story of female suffrage. The film about male suffrage can still be made. So it wasn't actually a lie at all like you claim, as both of these things happened in history.
shareThe film about male suffrage can still be made. So it wasn't actually a lie at all like you claim, as both of these things happened in history.
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But men don't have an agenda and need to complain as much about something that is no longer relevant, or even that interesting or important. This film appears to be nothing but feminist rousing propaganda. What is the message of the film? What sharp, observing and inciteful points is it making about how heroic they were, in showing that men were just as suppressed as women and needed rights, privileges and equality too? This was a class struggle, something that men fell under too and these feminists\women have made it all appear to be about them, as a lowly and shackled gender. How awful men were to these poor "victims".
What is relevant and important, is that these women were more concerned about hard done by and put up by men they were for not having the vote. That they also allowed the males in their lives, to be sacrificed in pointless wars. What were they doing to protest about this? These men who fought for women and their countries, were under oppression by world leaders and governments and not to mention overbearing women in their lives, who "used" them. And the men are still not complaining so much as women.
What are you talking about? I'm a male. Don't you know? I've had a plan since I was able to hold crayons. I drew up my evil plans to enslave women before I was out diapers. Weren't you drawing up specs and diagrams on women and how to oppress women?? What kind of baby boy were you?? :-/
shareSeriously though, I'm waiting for them to start whining that our low voices are patriarchal and oppressive. So, they'll be trying to push manginas to raise the tone of male voices so that it's more "human".
shareI've already seen feminist articles saying that beards are an "oppressive display of male dominance", and that any good "male ally" should stay clean-shaven at all times. I actually wouldn't be surprised at all if they went after deep voices at some point.
You know feminists in Sweden tried to pass an ordinance making it illegal for men to pee standing up, right?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/13/sweden-left-party-toilet-stand_n_1590572.html
Well if you don't want to get the toilet seat wet, maybe sitting ain't such a bad idea.
Why can't you wretched prey creatures understand that the Universe doesn't owe you anything!?
Ummmm sure, or I could just lift the seat like I've been doing my entire life.
Do you piss with the seat down or something? If so, you're doing it wrong.
Well that's fine too...but at night? It's easier just to sit down & leave the lights off...no sense wrecking your night vision.
Why can't you wretched prey creatures understand that the Universe doesn't owe you anything!?
Easier? Never once, at any point in my life, have I ever found it difficult to get up and take a leak in the middle of the night.
Anyway, by all means sit down and tinkle if you want to. Just don't try to pass laws telling me how I'm allowed to pee.
Wouldn't dream about telling people what to do with their urination habits.
Why can't you wretched prey creatures understand that the Universe doesn't owe you anything!?
Good deal. Unfortunately though, feminists do dream of it. Then they try and enforce it. Aaaaaand then they wonder why people don't like feminists.
shareI think exactly the same!!
shareThis feminist story centers on Maud, a working wife and mother whose life is forever changed when she is secretly recruited to join the U.K.'s growing suffragette movement. Galvanized by the outlaw fugitive Emmeline Pankhurst, Maud becomes an activist for the cause alongside women from all walks of life.
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