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My only problem with the movie .... *spoiler*


My only problem with the movie that I can think of is when the sister urges Richie to get her daughter out of the apartment.

It seemed so cloak-and-dagger because the sister made it sound like a life-or-death proposition, and then later we find out the threat was just the boyfriend's wife. Of course, police always say domestic disputes are the most dangerous, but was the woman really a threat to the little girl?

Did anyone else feel that part wasn't quite justified? There was enough other dark stuff in the movie, it seems it would not have been out of character for the movie to have had a real threat there although, dealing with a little girl, perhaps it was just as well; it might have made the movie too dark.

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That stuff is all not in the short, which I thought had a way more concise story overall by not including so many characters and not developing them (or some were just way out of place like the drug boss who by being a famous actor and just sleazeball felt shoehorned in)

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Thanks ... I guess it would be worthwhile to see the short. Someone in another thread commented that they found that even more affecting.

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The wife admitted that she saw it ending with a pen in her eye so she was right to be worried.

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I think it was definitely justified. That chick could have been crazy and could have wanted revenge on the sister and her own husband by hurting the daughter or something. Domestic disputes are all out of passion in the heat of the moment. The lady end up saying she would have stabbed her in the eye with a pen. That's some pretty crazy *beep* to me. Of course you find out she more than likely would have not done anything to the daughter, but coming from the mom's point of view, would you have risked your daughter's safety on the idea that 'oh that lady is probably very calm right now and would only want to hurt me, my daughter wouldn't be harmed'? If it were my daughter I definitely wouldn't.

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I totally get what you and Melinda are saying, but wouldn't it have been safer just to alert the doorman/men and stay inside? How likely was it that the 150-pound wife was going to blast her way into the apartment?

If memory serves, when the hero answered the door at one point, I'm not sure he even looked through the peephole; fortunately, that was the doorman, which seemed kind of a conflict to me. Anyway, it seemed more dangerous to me to get the daughter out and expose her to the elements. I think I might have stayed holed up inside prepared to call in reinforcements if possible.

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Well the sister only got one call in prison and decided to call her brother instead of the doorman because she wasn't thinking the wife might be lurking. I will definitely agree with you that the brother opening the door without looking was beyond stupid and it was even worse for him to open it for anyone other that his sister. *beep* the doorman what are they going to do anyway, call the cops? Maybe, but that's a better risk to take than leaving your niece alone, especially after promising her you would be in the same room. I also thought it was lame-ish that he didn't tell his sister he loved her and supported her when he picked her up. That was good advice but I guess we see he struggled with opening up to her and only finally did in their apartment when he thought he had nothing left to lose. The brother was obviously a very flawed character but I think the point was he has come a long way, but still has some improvements to go. Also, sorry if I cam across dickish in my original comment to you, I just talk like that unfortunately but didn't mean it against you.

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She was recently assaulted locked In "the tombs" surrounded by lots of aggressive dangerous people which probably magnified her irrational concerns of violence and danger to her daughter. Richie lives in that world of dangerous desperate people so he couldn't be the voice of reason. Yes, it would have been wiser for her to tell Richie to call the lobby security to have the woman banned from the building but then there would be no incredible night odyssey.

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@ JMKilling

Yes...which is why that particular story decision feels like a plot contrivance. The writer likely found it difficult to come up with a plausible reason for Sophia's need to leave a highly secure home at that hour; it should be obvious that a greater risk of danger was probable as soon as Richie and Sophia stepped into the city's nightlife.

I think a motivation for not returning to the apartment, in the first place, would've made the most sense. We really didn't need to see the angry wife since the lawyer made Maggie's situation clear during his jail consultation; the low-level threat to Sophie and Richie becomes clear. If the filmmaker really wanted to put the wife's anger into a scene, an extended verbal confrontation on the steps of the government building would've been sufficient. We never saw the wife's emotions in such a way as to validate Maggie's frantic pleas to remove Sophie from the safety of their apartment.

The high-rise complex with its city views is affluent-occupied, with a door man and security monitors. At minute 19:28 (Netflix), the apartment door appears to be metal with a thick metal door frame. Its long reinforced stainless steel knob plate incorporates a deadbolt with the main lock underneath, and a peep hole to boot. I assume the filmmaker made the modern home high-end, secure, and clean - in contrast to Richie's place - to establish Maggie's financial status at a young age of 25-27 years old. It sounded like she and her daughter had few friends; they depended heavily on each other and home was their haven. So it goes against Maggie's implied character to demand that her troubled, estranged brother take her beloved Sophia to his apartment in a low income, crime-ridden area of the city.

Richie and Sophia were MUCH safer staying indoors and could have called police if the suspicious woman came back knocking or yelling. As others have said, the doorman could've been put on alert as well; an intelligent Sophia would have known this too. The wife was fairly composed when she spoke to Richie in the hall; she did not seem manic or to be experiencing a Lizzie Borden, "bath salts", or meth moment. It's doubtful that she would've attacked an innocent child; she was there to confront Maggie as a home wrecker, her nemesis. Maggie's fear was so over-the-top with what we view during the jail phone scene that it remains an overreaction by the film's end. In fact, Maggie seemed the unhinged one - paranoid and manic - as if the mystery woman was a female Mafioso about to assassinate any one of them. But the wife didn't look to be all that dangerous or crazed; she conveyed no creepy threat and had no backup bodyguard...she quickly left the moment Richie pressed her for more info. Perhaps the wife character should've been written to seem more unstable or villainous...and Maggie less frantic and more sympathetic.

That night, a scorned woman was not getting inside the apartment...unless she used a detonation device and power saw in the manner of Limitless (2011), or via the 20th floor windows with Mission Impossible style.




"Don't get chumpatized!" - The King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters (2007)

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I like the film... but what you wrote is the most sensible thing I've read on this IMDb page's board. You hit each nail on the head. It's pretty much the biggest reason I prefer the short.

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Ha, ha ... I like your "that night, a scorned woman was not getting inside the apartment."

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I think you can take that "cloak-and-dagger" urging from her as being part of her character. When the situation all laid out on the table, it DOES feel underwhelming with the way she was making it out to be...and maybe that's the point. She doesn't want her screw-up brother nor her daughter to learn about her own major screwup that she got herself into, so she over-hypes it to make sure they leave and have a reason keep as far away as they can from the woman. Better to make them think they're in danger than to let them find out what she did.

She distanced herself from her brother because of his screw-ups and made this idealistic life for herself, but by the end they're both equally as flawed but also equally as good. He's not as bad as she thought, and she's not as perfect as he thought. They both thought they were in two different worlds, but by the end they aren't really that different after all.

That's my take on it, at least.

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Yup. Little sister has made such a point of controlling her life, and her daughter's, that she perceived the visit from her affair's wife (just learning that he's married, and physically abusive are serious shocks to her worldview) as something that could pull the curtain way back and undermine the illusion she's worked so hard to create. It's sort of pulled together in the end when she tells Richie that they come from different worlds. She's convinced herself of this, until Richie reminds her, "I know exactly where we came from." To her it was "dangerous" to allow the wife to interact with her daughter. And must've felt very threatening.

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