...and Edward had a sexual relationship? He mentions that they would get together and spend time in the city. I wasn't sure if that was a euphemism for meeting on the down low.
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Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world... but for Wales?
I was feeling the same way.
shareyeah it was probably a sexual relationship but he was so lonely think he wanted it to be a actual friendship.
shareI thought that Peter made up the relationship in his head.
shareHi AllThatJazz,
I agree - I think Peter had an imaginary relationship and was incapable of anything but a fantasy life with the person he obsessed over.
I also thought it was all in his mind and I also thought that his sister would have caught on after she called and told him about that died older Afro-American woman being found. And she hasn't talked to her mother in a while you would thing that something would have clicked especially knowing that you have a crazy psychotic ass brother.π¨
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I also thought it was all in his mind and I also thought that his sister would have caught on after she called and told him about that died older Afro-American woman being found. And she hasn't talked to her mother in a while you would thing that something would have clicked especially knowing that you have a crazy psychotic ass brother.π¨
I too thought Edward was imaginary but in the film Peter gets a phone call on his cell phone from Edward. Peter holds up his phone to show the camera that Edward is calling in. This is the call that was distressing to Peter and caused him to try and kill himself in his mother's car.
So the film makers wanted to ensure that Edward in some capacity did really exist.
Hi Editor_Mandy,
Sorry, I don't know why you replied to me - I said I thought the relationship was imaginary, not Edward. They made it clear he existed.
Thought that as well, because before he burns all those letters we get a look a bunch and they ALL say return to sender and don't look to be opened. That coupled together with the fact we never hear any of the people talking to him on the phone adds to the mystery though.. lol
shareGood points all.
Consider this: I think that maybe He and Peter were both two lonely young guys away from home and they may have experimented with a sexual relationship for brief period, and then they parted.
Unfortunately for Peter, for Edward it was most likely just a fling; 'an experiment' or an exploration if you will. Then Edward probably wanted to move on and forget it ever happened--hence he married.
What's really interesting is Edward's wife--she probably knew the deal. That's why she was so opposed to Peter's attempts at contact.But poor Peter couldn't let it go, and perhaps deluded himself it was more...serious?
Anyway, that's my little theory. A GREAT triumph and stunning tour-de-force by David O.
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Peter and Edward "visited the city" together after they had both left the army and when Edward was married.
I think this was an exceptionally brilliant film, and I wouldn't be surprised if the ambiguity was intentional.
yep..their city visits were after he was married that's why Edward knew the wife.
shareSuch a good question!
The movie allows you to play out the 2 different scenarios in your head throughout:
1) There had been (at least once) actual contact and Peter is obsessing, whereas Edward tucked it away as a distant memory
2) Peter made up the full relationship in his mind, and Edward was only a passing friend in the Army
I'm convinced it's the former. It seems that Edward may have experimented with and exploited Peter previously. But now Peter, who's obviously psychotic, has obsessed on that contact and has blown it up into a full out relationship although it was just a fling.
Poor Gloria.
It's really hard to know. I wonder why Edward would tell Peter he will come for dinner and then not arrive. Edward, after receiving drunken, nasty messages on his machine from an obviously unhinged Peter, would have to know that the consequences of not showing for dinner could put his family in jeapordy.
It just doesn't make sense...
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I don't remember Edward telling Peter he would come for dinner. Perhaps he was placating Peter?
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Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world... but for Wales?
I thought the same thing....but then I watched it again...and all we see/hear is the Peter side of the telephone call to Edward. I think for sure he was placating Peter. Such a great film!
With our thoughts, we make our World.
Seems like countsuckula felt the way I did, but after watching 5 times I just wonder if we can trust anything this character says or thinks. His web of lies was so easily woven I wonder if he didn't make up the entire relationship. Why would he think his mom would love dude? He fooled himself so much I wonder if he was posting to a blog or if the phone really worked so many times, this was a fun movie... T
shareThere was some sort of sexual relationship, whether it was imagined or real. It is hinted to in the beginning when he talks about his mother and the reason he "snapped". When he asked his mother to allow him to have the house to himself to invite Edward over for dinner, he said that her response was "not in my house and not while I'm still living". I don't know of any reason his mother would have so strongly objected to him having an old military buddy over for dinner, unless the relationship was somehow forbidden or seen as wrong by his mother.
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