When JJ dropped the venison on his foot you easily tell he wanted to snap. He held it in because they are kids
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He know to be gentler with the kids.
Earth without art is just "eh."
I'm not surprised he didn't go off on the kids. He has more control than that.
I AM surprised an F-bomb didn't slip out and get bleeped.
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I enjoy the Gordon Ramsay we see here - he's very good with the kids; I don't care for the one I see in MasterChef; he's unnecessarily vulgar and loud -- though I've only seen part of one season, so I may be over-reacting.
share> He held it in because they are kids
He held it in because there were cameras around and he didn't want to look bad on TV. The fact that JJ is a kid had nothing to do with it.
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He held it in because there were cameras around and he didn't want to look bad on TV. The fact that JJ is a kid had nothing to do with it.I disagree. The way Gordon interacts with kids on any of his shows is a good indicator of how he really is with kids, and I just don't believe that he held it in because of the cameras.
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> The way Gordon interacts with kids on any of his shows is a good indicator of how he really is with kids,
I'm not so sure. The way he acts with all people on his shows is a better indicator of how he treats kids when they cameras are off. I just have this feeling that life is pretty rough around his house. I suspect that the kids better toe the line or else.
I mean, look at how he slams pot and pans around on Hell's Kitchen when someone burns a scallop. Imagine what happens when one of his kids breaks a vase when playing ball in the house.
He was mad enough to launch JJ across the lawn this week.
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Oh, *beep* You have no idea what kind of father he is, and it's obvious that his wife and kids adore him. He talks about his kids frequently, and it's obvious he adores them.
share> it's obvious that his wife and kids adore him.
Well, let's just say that they respect him. And, with the temper we see on TV, you better believe that the wife and kids learn to respect him rather fast.
> and it's obvious he adores them.
Of course he does. He's whipped them into shape and now they are all tiny little representations of him.
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Oh, bosh, his wife and kids adore him. Everyone who knows him says he's a VERY nice person offscreen.
Earth without art is just "eh."
The drama, cursing and antics on Hell's Kitchen are for ratings.
If you want a better idea of how Gordon treats people, including his wife and children, watch The F Word. You can find episodes on You Tube.
If you can't be a good example -- then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.
> If you want a better idea of how Gordon treats people, including his wife and children, watch The F Word.
Yes, I am quite sure that a show produced and starring Gordon Ramsay will show us the real, seedy underbelly of Mr. Ramsay at his worst.
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God, you're just a nasty little bitch, aren't you? You and the other poster are so positive that he's some abusive monster that you have no room in your perspective to allow for the chance that he's really a nice guy who's been misrepresented because of his "antics" on Hell's Kitchen. Have you watched any of his other shows? Kitchen Nightmares, both the US and British versions, The F Word, MC Jr. He doesn't hide his temper at all times, and that's what's made him so popular in the US. He sells anger the way other shows sell sex.
share> You and the other poster are so positive that he's some abusive monster that you have no room in your perspective to allow for the chance that he's really a nice guy who's been misrepresented because of his "antics" on Hell's Kitchen.
And, if Hell's Kitchen was portrayed to me as a scripted fiction show with actors, then you'd be absolutely correct. But, it is not. It is a reality show with real people and real reactions and real emotions. Ramsay created this show based on his legendary real-life antics in the kitchen.
It's just staggering to me to think that there are people like you out there that watch a man yell and swear and berate and throw things around and then conclude, "Heck, if he's that mean and nasty to strangers, he must be a really nice guy to his own family." If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it's probably a duck.
> He sells anger the way other shows sell sex.
And, I'll bet that you think that, in real life, Paris Hilton and the Kardasians are chaste and pure little girls that think that sex is a bad idea. Because, you know, it's all an act for TV, right?
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It's just staggering to me to think that there are people like you out there that watch a man yell and swear and berate and throw things around and then conclude, "Heck, if he's that mean and nasty to strangers, he must be a really nice guy to his own family." If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it's probably a duck.You're not taking into account that people have different personas for different situations. Take me, for example. At home, I throw the F word around like there's no tomorrow; I've been known to yell and basically act like quite the bitch (under the right circumstances). But at work or out in public or in a doctor's waiting room? NEVER!
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> You're not taking into account that people have different personas for different situations.
True. But, many situations are the same. So, if a chef on Hell's Kitchen burns the scallops, it's not much different from a kid breaking a vase. Most anyone would react the same way.
> I've been known to yell and basically act like quite the bitch (under the right circumstances). But at work or out in public or in a doctor's waiting room? NEVER!
Those are very different situations. I can't imagine why anyone would even think to act like a bitch when sitting in a waiting room reading a magazine. I'm quite sure that when Ramsay is sitting quietly in a doctor's waiting room, he doesn't berate anyone at all.
> Have you ever seen Gordon's children with him? They're clearly very happy and love him a lot. If he were a tyrant at home--like he is for effect on "Hell's Kitchen"--don't you think his kids would show it?
I've seen many children living under a tyrant's hand. They are FAR better behaved than kids who have parents with a hands-off approach. The ones who live under a tyrant know that they better behave or else there will be hell to pay once they get home.
Seriously. Do you think that the citizens of North Korea are better behaved and polite than the citizens of the United States? People of North Korea know that they will be killed if they embarrass their leader, while people of the United States insult and berate our leader constantly. So, the people of North Korea smile and say how wonderful their leader is.
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True. But, many situations are the same. So, if a chef on Hell's Kitchen burns the scallops, it's not much different from a kid breaking a vase. Most anyone would react the same way.I totally disagree. Again, it comes down to different personas for different environments/situations. Yelling at a chef on HK for burning the scallops in NO WAY means that Ramsay yells at his kids for breaking a vase. Besides, if Ramsay's ONLY true persona is the yelling/cursing one from HK, then why didn't he behave like that on "Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares" (the original British show)? As I mentioned earlier, he behaves in a very quiet, civil, refined way on that show, with only an occasional sh!t or F word thrown in as part of a normal-voiced sentence.
Those are very different situations.No, not really. I mentioned work. My work environment would be analogous to HK for Gordon. But I NEVER yelled, or threw things, or chastised my employees.
I can't imagine why anyone would even think to act like a bitch when sitting in a waiting room reading a magazine. I'm quite sure that when Ramsay is sitting quietly in a doctor's waiting room, he doesn't berate anyone at all.Perhaps that was a bad example. My point was that in certain situations, ranting and raving are not in my repertoire while, in other situations, they are. And I'm SURE it's the same way for Ramsay, because I've SEEN it for myself in some of his other shows. If you haven't seen his other shows--the ones that don't involve any yelling/screaming/carrying on (aside from MasterChef Junior), then you really should! It would be eye opening.
I've seen many children living under a tyrant's hand. They are FAR better behaved than kids who have parents with a hands-off approach. The ones who live under a tyrant know that they better behave or else there will be hell to pay once they get home.I agree 100%. I grew up under a tyrant's hand (my grandmother), and left home at 16 because of it. But that still doesn't change my opinion of Gordon Ramsay as a father, or how he behaves toward his kids.
Seriously. Do you think that the citizens of North Korea are better behaved and polite than the citizens of the United States? People of North Korea know that they will be killed if they embarrass their leader, while people of the United States insult and berate our leader constantly. So, the people of North Korea smile and say how wonderful their leader is.Again, I agree 100%. You're absolutely right about that. But as far as Gordon is concerned, I'm just not seeing the similarity.
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> Again, I agree 100%. You're absolutely right about that. But as far as Gordon is concerned, I'm just not seeing the similarity.
My point is that you cannot use an example of well-behaved kids as a sign that the parents are good and kind ones. It is just as likely that parents of well-behaved kids are tyrants.
And, since we see on TV that Ramsay is very capable of being a tyrant, it's more likely than not that he is a tyrant in his private life.
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We have also seen on TV that Ramsay is very capable of being a kind, thoughtful human being, so it's more likely than not that is a kind, thoughtful human being in his private life.
Earth without art is just "eh."
Okay then. You see Ramsay build a 2-year career and many TV shows around being an out-of-control swearing maniac, but then you see a couple of aw-shucks, made-for-TV moments and you conclude that he must be a really sweet guy.
You're kind of a sucker for any old propaganda machine, aren't you?
You probably also think that Trump is the best father and husband in the world since his wife and children appear on TV and smile a lot, right?
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Okay then. You see Ramsay build a 2-year career and many TV shows around being an out-of-control swearing maniac, but then you see a couple of aw-shucks, made-for-TV moments and you conclude that he must be a really sweet guy.You've avoided responding to questions about seeing Gordon's original version of KN, "Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares." Why is that? As I've pointed out, multiple times, he is VERY CIVIL and quiet and calm and collected on that show--and it predates ANY of his US shows. Therefore, by your own reasoning, his behavior in that multi-year show, that predates HK, is what his REAL persona is all about. But...for some reason...you're hell-bent on making his brash persona from HK--a series that came LONG AFTER his original shows--his "real" persona.
You're kind of a sucker for any old propaganda machine, aren't you?
You probably also think that Trump is the best father and husband in the world since his wife and children appear on TV and smile a lot, right?I know this wasn't aimed at me, but: NO, I absolutely do not think Trump is the best...ANYTHING. Well, okay, if we're talking about pompous asses, he's the best.
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> You've avoided responding to questions about seeing Gordon's original version of KN, "Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares." Why is that?
I've never seen it.
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> You've avoided responding to questions about seeing Gordon's original version of KN, "Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares." Why is that?Bingo! Then you need to see it. That way you'll have the same pool of information I do regarding Ramsay's behavior. And when you do watch it, be sure to keep in mind that it predates any of his US shows; its original air dates go back to 2004. So, again, based on your own reasoning, his behavior in that show MUST be indicative of his behavior in general...which means he's a polite, civil, quiet, well-behaved guy.
I've never seen it.
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GraceFromSoCal Not aimed at you. I agree with you 100%.
After watching the last episode of HK, it seems very contestant brings the worst on themselves by being stupid or cocky, or both. Ramsay has high expectations of the people who work for/with him, and HK is little more than Executive/Sous Chef Bootcamp. Do you think that every *beep* squadron leader who belittles his recruits treats his family the same as he does the GIs who file off the bus?
You tell us we're giving him the benefit of the doubt when we cite actual *evidence* that he loves his family, yet you're condemning him for how he acts on one show. Very open-minded and magnanimous of you.
He would have FLIPPED if it happened on Hell's Kitchen.
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