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Well that sucked (spoiler)


Bye, bye Nacho. You will be missed.

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It was inevitable......

But he went out on his own terms, not giving any satisfaction to Gus, or the Salamancas & Bolsa.

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So true.

I don't quite understand what Mike was going to do up on the hill.

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The man likes to be up on hills with his sniper rifle, okay? Just let him pursue his hobbies in peace.

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Well that was certainly helpful.

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He was just there as he said to make sure everything went according to plan, like if the Salamanca's tried to kill Gus, and probably to ensure Nacho wasn't tortured.

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I think he was there in case something went wrong & was prepared to take out Bolsa, & the Cousins if so.

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I thought that maybe there was a plan to take the Salamancas out but it it didn't materialize.

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I feel Mike really went there just to see Nacho’s death. He seemed to have a good friendship with Nacho. Ostensibly, he went there to make sure nothing goes wrong, but inwardly, that wasn’t his reason for wanting to be there

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Nacho really grew on me, like am ordinary guy caught up in extraordinary circumstance... He died with pride and purpose.

RIP Nacho x

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I do sometimes wonder if vacuum salesman actor had lived if Nacho would have used his services instead...

Also, why on earth did Nacho hide in the derelict tanker? It's the FIRST place the twins would have looked, all he had to do was make a B-Line towards the trees out in the distance and he would have had an easy hiding spot and no need to get covered in tar or oil or poop or whatever that black stuff was.

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Yeah I was thinking the same but hiding in the tanker made for a really cool scene. More over I was wondering how Nacho held his breath for so long and how he knew the exact moment to resurface from the ‘oil’ or whatever it was.

I was sorry to see Nacho go, he was an interesting and likeable character. I really hope Mike makes a point of protecting Nacho’s father should the Salamancas seek to extend their vengeance. I really hope nothing bad happens to him.

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More over I was wondering how Nacho held his breath for so long and how he knew the exact moment to resurface from the ‘oil’ or whatever it was.


For some really good insight into all the details of filming that scene, check out the Insider Podcast for the episode. You can find it on Spotify. Quite a lot of planning & setups went into it. Michael should get an Emmy for that alone!!

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Re: how he knew when to resurface from the oil. He could hear the bad guy’s footsteps as the bad guy walked across the tanker

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Yeah it seemed wooded on the left side of the road, I wondered why Nacho didn't go in that direction, but I guess the script said head for the tanker!

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Nacho was my favorite character. Makes me sad.

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He really died like a MAN. More noble than any character on BB or BCS.

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One could argue Hector died like a man as well.

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Well— Nacho died for noble reasons. Self sacrifice for his father’s sake. Hector died to gain the upper hand on a petty vendetta.

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Nacho is the one who put his father in the danger in the first place by getting into that life. Wouldn’t exactly call the man noble.

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Yes, well, it’ s never too late to make amends.

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I hope his father stays OK and the Salamancas don't go after him as revenge because of what Nacho said.

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They have to go thru Mike to get him

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But I think that was directed at Gus, not the Salamancas.

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Why would it stop with Salamancas? I could Imagine later in the season Mike helping Nacho father to disappear from the heat.

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Well if they go after him, I hope Mike keeps him safe.

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I think they’ll leave him alone.

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We all knew it was a strong probability but concluding Nacho's story arc in such a rushed & unceremonious manner was a weird/bad decision. Arguably the most interesting original character with the most interesting story arc killed off in the third episode? Really? All so we can get to the conclusion of the shadow war between Gus & Lalo, which we know how will end. Of course we can't forget Kim (A character who could have easily been written out of the show 2-3 seasons ago) & her uninteresting, random obsession with destroying Hamlin that even Jimmy/Saul thinks is irrational in its maliciousness.

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I think you touched on the reason in your complaint. We know how Gus v. Lalo ends. Why drag that on any longer than it has to go? Better Call Saul has very skillfully juggled at least a half dozen character arcs and plots, and they have to be wrapped up this year. Chuck's death was similar-- it was jarring, but necessary, and it had to happen sooner or later. Once Chuck was out of the picture, Saul had the freedom to become someone other than Chuck's little brother.

As interesting as Nacho has been, his part in the tale was done. What more could he do? Spend the entire season running from Hector and Gus? It was either kill him or find a way to let him survive and vanish. The latter, though happy, doesn't make a lot of sense. Once it was established that his father refused to run away, we knew Nacho's days were numbered. It ceased to be "will he die?" and became "when and how will he die?"

I think the writers pulled it off well. Even though we knew he was going to die, it was still a big surprise in how it came about.

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In the same way with Breaking Bad, I think the showrunners do a very good job of creating interesting characters & dramatic build up. So much so that the spots of lazy, contrived writing in order to simply move the plot along, are regularly overlooked by fans. My disappointment in the rushed & unceremonious conclusion of Nacho's story was compounded by the way it happened, diminishing Gus as a character along the way. Nacho's tragic fate was squarely the result of the writers lazily turning Gus into a mustache twirling moron of a villain at the end of the previous season, making several idiotic decisions that should have been his undoing. A trend which continued into season 6.

Gus arranging a hit on Lalo, in the midst of their feuding was questionable enough on its own, but in discovering that an unaccounted-for Nacho was down in Mexico with Lalo, instead of delaying the assassination until Nacho was in the clear, he decides to squander the valuable asset of having a double agent by putting him in the middle of the assassination attempt for no coherent reason. Gus for no discernable reason chooses to turn an asset into a huge, life-threatening liability that should have blown up in his face in any number of ways but he implausibly lucks his way through one asinine decision after the other, culminating in Nacho agreeing to sacrifice himself, nice and neatly bailing out Gus' blunders so Breaking Bad can eventually happen. The lead up to Nacho's fate was less about compelling storytelling & more about it being as you say, "necessary" for the writers to wrap it up.

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I could not agree more.
Eloquently put.
Great post, you express everything I felt is wrong with Nacho's demise.

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Mike said it to the girls in the first episode, "he's not coming back"....Mike knew where this was going.

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I knew he’d die but I thought they would at least save him until the end of the season. Guess I was wrong.

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