Felt like that was an underwhelming finale. Outside of Chucks death (assuming hes actually dead) and Hector going down it doesn't feel like a whole lot of important events happened. I mean we didn't even see Mike in the finale. I feel like it was a let down.
shareIt wasn't a huge finale but it had some good bits in it.
Chuck's storyline confused me, he had been doing so well, plus he 'won' his battle at HHM, I don't know why he relapsed to the point of deliberately lighting his house on fire. I guess telling Jimmy that he never cared about him didn't make him as happy as he thought it would. He seems to think that beating other people and grinding them into the dirt will boost himself up, but it really doesn't work out. It drives people away. Everything Chuck said to Jimmy is really true of himself. Chuck only hurts people.
He lit his house on fire but I don't know if he dies in the fire. I mean it takes a lot of willpower to sit there and let yourself burn to death, when you can easily run out of the house. That kind of suicide is hard to pull off because burning hurts and all your instincts are telling you to run away from the fire.
Meanwhile Jimmy basically destroyed his professional name just to help an old lady reconcile with her friends. Jimmy really is a marshmallow inside.
I'm glad Kim is okay and that she took some time off.
When Nacho handed the pills over to the paramedics, he had not switched them back with the real nitroglycerine pills like Mike told him to.
I do think Gus knows something is up, I even think he helped by trying to get Hector agitated.
Without the motivation of getting revenge... Chuck lost whatever drive that was spurring him towards recovery. He still was dealing with his OCD, and as soon as his battles with Howard and Jimmy were finished, there was nothing left to distract him from the final descent into madness. The way they were talking on Talking Saul, I'm guessing Chuck is dead but that he will reappear in flashback type scenes.
I thought the finale was fine... there's only so much you can do with a predetermined ending.
Thats a really good point, i didn't even think about Jimmy and Howard being distractions for Chuck to keep his mind off his illness. And yeah once he was done with them as you said he descended into madness and his illness consumed him.
shareI'm pretty sure Nacho handed over the old nitroglycerin pills. I don't believe Nacho is in BB so he will get out of this in some form or fashion.
I'm confused as to why Gus wanting to save Hector except that he thought Hector needs to suffer more than a quick death.
Gus wants Hector watch him take away everything Hector has piece by piece, including his family. Mike probably told Gus about the pills, and Gus knows there is a fairly strong chance of survival if he can get medical attention quickly. Best case, Hector is hospitalized for a while and less involved in the day to day operations. We see Gus taking this same kind of gamble on himself in Breaking Bad with the poison.
shareNacho had the real pills with him, ready to swap at the right time. He pockets the fallen pills without putting them back in the container.
shareI think Chuck is definitely dead. They had the suicide prevention hotline come up at the end for people and like someone else said, they sounded pretty definitive about it on Talking Saul afterwards. I agree that it might not be the last we see of him though.
I think it makes sense he got to the point of suicide. He pretty much lost everything he had built and was fighting for. He got pushed out of his own company and severed ties with Jimmy and his reputation as a lawyer was sinking. He is someone who lived off of his accomplishments and hoarding that over people to make himself feel better and more important. Absent any of that, he probably felt like he had nothing, not to mention his mental illness always creeping in. Left on his own, with no seeming purpose it took over and put him into an even worse place than before. I had theorized he would do something like this after the court episode because it ended with Chuck looking up at the buzzing, "NO EXIT," sign. I think that was their way of foreshadowing this.
I agree about Gus and Nacho. Gus totally knows he is up to something with those pills. That was great symmetry having Gus be the one to save Hector since Hector is the one who kills him later. I thought that was a pretty neat thing to do.
I'm always glad to see Kim okay, haha, cause we know she probably won't be at some point in the future. It was nice to see her finally let her hair down (literally too). I think she's just hit an overworked wall and realized she had almost no life outside of that and it was eating her alive. She deserves some time off!
All in all, I think the finale was a good one!
That didn't ring true to me. Someone in desperate financial straits wasn't going to give up that sort of money for the sake of an old lady. As for Chuck he went from doing 'okay' to wanting to tear his house apart and setting it alight in a single evening. Come on. Nacho should just have asked Mike to put a snipers bullet in Hector's head, for a price of course.
shareThere were also many storylines, I can see why you feel that way. Me personally....it was fine.
I do think Chuck is bye bye. It looks like Hector's illness that caused his paralysis was right there last night. I'm glad we will still have at least one more season with Kim. She brings it every show.
Way too much, and let me repeat, WAY too much Chuck scenes.
Way too much Chuck moping around his house tearing at the walls trying to figure out what is causing the power to drain--and he never does figure it out or realize that Mike was in his house with a power drill just a few weeks earlier.
Halfway through the episode I was like, "Why don't we just call this show Better Call Chuck"?
Very little Gus, which is unfortunate. Very little Hector or Nacho despite major plot implications. No Mike, very unfortunate. Plenty of Kim and Jimmy, and seeing Kim in pajamas is the most glorious thing I've seen all week.
Episode ends with Chuck committing suicide... wow. All of that Chuck for a death by fire. Except... I won't be surprised one iota if Season 4 begins, after the new Gene scene that is, with Chuck being rescued by the fire department and he'll continue to mope around all Season 4.
I was expecting more, too. There was drama, but not enough action. Maybe Better Call Saul soap opera is the way we should look at this series.
shareI have to agree and i'm glad i wasn't alone feeling this way.
It felt like just another episode.